Our Life

-You'd never consider joining Oprah's book club, but you read everything Sawyer's ever touched.
-You stay up extra late every night just to watch Evangeline Lilly's chatline commercial and hoot with amazed, delirious laughter.
-You refer to your bathroom as "the Hydra."
-You now count to 5 whenever you're afraid.
-You've stared for 3 hours at a comic book, trying to make it come alive.
-You hear creaking in you attic and you think the Black Cloud is going to get you.
-When the lotto comes on, you just repeat "the numbers are bad. The numbers are bad."
-You play with "the numbers" on a calculator.
-You use the numbers for your lottery ticket
-You enter the numbers into your computer every 108 minutes in fear the building will implode.
-You wake up from a nightmare screaming "WWWAAAALLLTTTT!"
-You've called 1-481-516-2342 on the telephone.
-You've begun referring to memories as "flashbacks."
-You even tell your non-Lost friends what happened in the last episode.
-You request hotel room 108.
-When you're bored, you wrap masking tape around your fingers and inscribe "FATE" or "LATE"
-You would like to be in a plane crash as long as you survive, and get to have cool adventures.
-When you see black smoke in the distance you whisper to everyone around you "the others are coming".
-You repeat the numbers over and over again and don't realize your doing it
-"You All Everybody" is the most played song on your mp3 player.
-You break any Virgin Mary statue you see to look for heroin.
-You build golf courses in your backyard for fun.
-You have a countdown to LOST on your Myspace page.
-You expect Walt to show up in front of you all wet while you are going to the kitchen at night so you have to turn on all the lights of the house.
-You are now unable to watch any other t.v. series because you find them too silly.
-You keep threathening to go find the Losties on the Island, just so you can kick Kate's butt for not sticking with Jack. (enough already sheesh!)
-You have conversations with people reciting lines from random episodes.
-You talk like you have a Southern accent and make fun of every one with little nick-names
-You overhear your friends talking about Dr. Shephard and Dr. Burke performing surgery, and you jump right in and say how creepy it was when Ben woke up, and they have no idea what you're talking about since they were discussing Grey's Anatomy.
-You see good people suffering and say "That's why the Sox will never win the series."
-you call everyone "brotha"
-you put DHARMA Initiative labels on the canned food in your pantry and on the beer in your fridge.
-you use the numbers as your log in password on your computor.
-Your friends call you crazy because you believe polar bears live in tropical climates
-Whenever your friends come by for an unexpected visit, you tell them "They're watching me"
-You are known for serving fish biscuits and reminding your friends how long it took the bears to get them
-You have "Make your own kind of music" playing over and over in your head, and had to download it so you would at least hear something else than the chorus.
-when you're reading romeo and juliet in english you ask what happened to jack and ben.
-You have set out to find Penn, to tell her that the blip that came across the radar screen was Desmond, and she needs to rescue him before the others kill him

omfg i actually kinda do one of these….. i use the numbers as passwords GOD im a DORK

Thanks zack we can break into your accountds now! hahaha just kidding

-While at funerals, you walk up to the casket and say, "See you in another life, brotha."
-You always refer to the new kids as "Nikki and Paulo"
-You automatically assume anyone who claims to be from Canada or Minnesota is an Other
-You start seeing bald guys in bath robes who shouldn't exist
-You rename your dog "Vincent"
-Anytime someone whispers to you, you start turning your head around in fear
-You take your friends rock-climbing and start quoting "Of Mice and Men" when you get to the top
-You own your own personal Jesus stick
-You refuse to get medical treatment until Jack shows up for work
-You start to talk backwards at random moments
-You immediately worry about your friends' safety if someone asks if you have any milk
-After watching a job orientation film, you ask your co-workers if they would like to watch that again
-Every time a semester starts, you tell your classmates to "live together or die alone"
-Anytime you hear a typewriter, you assume the monster is nearby
-You tell your comic book buddies that Locke would beat Professor Xavier in a fight
-You go to restuarants and demand that they serve you boar
-You go around telling people you don't know that the Others are after their kids
-you go to Sea World, find a shark, wrestle it and flip it over to see if there is a DHARMA logo on the bottom
-you refer to your principal/boss as "Him"
-your pick-up line is, "What did one snowman say to the other snowman?"

You mean to tell me "normal" people don't walk around calling their bathroom "the Hydra," converse with one another reciting lines from random LOST episodes, run around making fun of everyone with little nick-names, and aren't able to watch any other T.V. series other than LOST because they find them too silly?

Hmmm…, I guess that means I do watch way too much LOST (ha, ha)…. Good list!

There is not such thing as too much LOST lol

My favorite: " You even tell your non-lost friends what happened in the last episode." I am so guilty of this! They're always like wow, that's confusing, and I'm like yea, pretty much. lol

what about if you spend all waking moments (or at least a majority of them) trying to spread the good word (of lost, that is) to all around you?

"After watching a job orientation film, you ask your co-workers if they would like to watch that again"

i laughed so hard when i read that
haha i can see myself doing it too

Haha Stephanie I read wat u wrote & laughed bc im kinda like that too! Im ALWAYZ talking ab it to ppl who dont watch it & getting them to watch it too!

- you have ' You all everybody' on your ipod/mp3 player/w.e
- when you come out of the washroom after flushing the toilet you say ' well, the toilet's still working'.

Haha, these are awesome! I have one. Okay, this is going to sound hick (in favor of Sawyer, lol), but I live around a farming community and these bull cows go crazy sometimes. It's so random and it sounds JUST like the freakin monster, lol. I'll be doing my own thing outside and then it scares the crap out of me. LoL

I have some more
-You've dug around your backyard trying to find a hatch
-Anytime you hear the name ethan you say "oh no he's back"
-when you have worries you always wanna go downtown

– you listen to "make your own kind of music" when you get ready in the morning

-if you are a guy and you try to walk into a girl's bathroom and someone tells you that you can't go in there. your reply: DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO

this is hilarious. i too am most definatly in stephanies world. i constantly tell my non-lost watching friends everything going on, i even tell them spoilers and foilers, they dont care, they just stare at me. but meh! im lost in lost, we all are, signs u watch too much lost:
ur posting on the discussion board in the addicted to lost facebook group, on a topis headed " signs u watch too much lost"……

well i do wish i had a accent like desmond, and ive been hearing those numbers in my head…. 4 8 15 16 23 42… lol

-you hear the Hatch beep at the grocery store and immediatley want to type the numbers into the nearest computer.

lol, i tell my best friend about what happened in the last episode, and he's like "a magic box…WTF?!"

lol am so guilty of a lot of those.
here are some more.
- every time you go to a jewlery store you expect the woman at the counter to say " no you do not by that"
-every time you hear about a bank robery on the news you think to yourself 'she only wanted the toy plane'
-every time you see someone reading a comic book you have to look behind you just in case.

I must admit I've accually done a few of those! lol

lol i used the numbers to play the lottery haha.wen u refer to ur in laws as ''the others'' haha!

How about when someone who has never seen the show asks how you feel about it and you totally freak out.

There is no such thing as too much LOST… I like to think of myself as a LOSTologist so I need to make sure that I know everything there is to know…even if it means watching the same episode three times or even staying up late to watch the Jimmy Kimmel show because someone from LOST is going to be on and might let something slip :)

You even tell your non-lost friends what happened in the last episode

ya lol guilty.
ill try to explain an episode to my gf….
lot harder wen they dont even noe wat "Black Smoke" is

sometimes i pretend i have a Desmond accent and say brotha a lot… lol not really but im going crazy, im still hearing those numbers…

hahahahhahah

yeah, my friends and i do say "brotha" to each other a lot. haha

I work in a grocery store and when i start scanning things to quickly Ithink the store is going to blow up….and then I put the numbers into my computer and feel better about everything.

If the episode was a flash forward, then in that scene where the other doctor was confronting Jack, why did Jack ask him to bring down his father to compare how drunk he was. In the future, shouldn't Jack's dad be dead?

i think he jsut said it because thats how his dad was when he was alive so hes like my father did so can i kind of thing.

That's the first thing I thought about. Jack's dad is supposed to be dead….freaky…

I don't remember hearing that, but perhaps its a metaphor (bring him down from heaven to compare how drunk his father was to how drunk Jack was in that scene). Maybe?

2 reasons, either a) Jack was drugged out of his MIND, which is probably the case, or b) his father is somehow alive (jacob anyone?)

Seriously though he was just high as a kite and so fucked when he said that so that's probably why.

nahh I think he REALLY did mean bring down my father…

arghh rly? i don't remember him saying that…i wasn't paying attention to that "talk" scene between Jack and that doctor. i guess he was just drugged out of his mind. who was the funeral for? :S

Another question, who's funeral did jack want kate to go to?

Unfourtunately everything in the show can be explained with science (as idealistic as that science might be) so your statement is a bit… far fetched.

there was no body in the his father's coffin so…

Locke or Sawyer, I think Sawyer because he EXPECTED Kate to go, but Locke has a lot of good points going for him too.

Yes the body was probably ejected from the coffin during the crash…believe it or not a plane crash MIGHT have that effect.

Kate was going home to Sawyer, so it couldn't have been him.

My first thought was Locke, but I really don't know.

but if it was sawyer, then why did kate say "he'll be wondering where i am" or something to that effect?

That's why it could also be Locke, but remember Kate doesn't nessecarily end up with Sawyer (although i hope she does) so it could just as easily be another guy she met later and married and Sawyer could have died.

I'd say Juliette's in the coffin…unless they made references of the dead person being a "he" but I'm not sure.
As for "bring my father down" there was no body found in the coffin and Mikhail (sp) "died" once also so I'd say Christain is alive

but kate might be pregnant with sawyer so it could be sawyer

Mikhail didn't "die," "good thing the fence wasn't set to a lethal level."

I'm thinking it is Ben. Definitely not Jack's friend or family, and makes sense that he may want to pay his respects to Ben for actually warning them about this other group of people.

Christian being alive is…well I'm just going to go ahead and say your wrong, and time will either prove or disprove that, it's a mute point now anyways. As for Mikhail he isn't really a good person to compare with since he never died, as he said himself the wall was on a low setting so he was ok.

i think the person in the coffin was either locke….or quite possibly ben?
and the guy jack called on the satelite phone seemed pretty surprised to get the call which means im hoping its not the "bad people" that ben claims it is

Two possible solutions that come to mind are he's speaking metaphorically, as in "bring my dad down from heaven" or it could be because he definately wasn't in the best mental shape of his life, so he could've actually thought his dad wasn't dead.

i don't think jack told anyone in the real world that his father is dead. they might still think he's missing. but of course jack said that cause he was drunk.

im pretty sure jack was on drugs and alcohol..so maybe he was hallucinating and still thought his dad was alive…

What about Helen? If it was Locke's funeral, wouldn't she be there?

Helen left Locke a long time ago and I'm pretty sure she's never coming back, time could prove me wrong but. Another strong point to it being Sawyer however so bravo.

i believe it's Locke in the casket. i also think that the "him" kate is referring to is sawyer…
i think it's Locke because the whole final scene of the flashback (or should i say, flashforward) revolved around kate and jack talking about going back to the island, and how jack "thought she would be at the funeral"… at which time jack says "we have to go back!"… i think it's because jack realized (once he was off the island) that Locke was only trying to help him when he told jack that he wasn't supposed to use the satellite phone.
although.. it could possibly be ben in the casket considering kate's reaction … "why would i go to the funeral!?" kinda like.. ben killed so many of the lostees… why should she go and pay his respects.. as well.. ben had no family other than his father (roger workman) who died on the island, and his mother (who also died) so it makes sense that there would be no one at his funeral… on the other hand.. locke had no family either… but you would think that SOMEONE who knew locke would show up.. like someone from the box company or someshit.

anyways. that's my reasoning.
cheers.

JACKS DAD IS NOT JACOB!

THANK YOU HENRY someone caught that. and jack said "why don't you call my father and get him down here?" this is not the normal future for our island friends. christian is dead, obviously. in the flashbacks, it seems like they are off the island and back home. yet christian is still alive in those flashbacks. now let's try to add that one up….

Alright perhaps this topic has already been touched but here it is.\

I had thought since season one that the island was purgatory; this was shot down by the producers. Not hell I think we all know this, so the next idea came to me, and that was a different dimension. I’m really liking this idea, first off it was said that the beacon was down the allowed people to travel to the island, therefore if you leave you can't return. I was thinking a Bermuda triangle sort of deal here, I don't really know, just throwing this idea out there, tell me what you think.

I thought the same things for a while as well. Perhaps you are on to something here. I have heard rumors of it being, in a sense, like a black hole in outer space; an open gateway of some sort.

But who knows… I certainly do not.

No. Just no, i don't mean to be harsh but everything you have said is …well wrong. Here is a little Lost info, all of these things have been confirmed by the producers/writers.
1)Everything can be explained with science, there is no magic or anything like that (some of the science may be a bit of a stretch but all of it is THEORETICALLY possible)
2) Not purgatory or hell or another dimension or a dream. All of these answers as to what happened are not true, if you want proof past me and the producers that they are all wrong look at the season 2 finale, they SHOW there is something else out there that can see them.

You're going to tell me that there is a self-navigable fog of blackness that can fly around pick people up, show faces and flash a light at you? Negative, ghostrider.

I am not saying the other dimension thing is true, I am just saying I have explored the possibility.

That's right ghost rider…maybe you should go read something before you make a bigger ass out of yourself. A giant cloud of black smoke is nothing new in the world of science fiction (see Michael Crichton's book Prey). The idea is that it is hundreds of thousands of nano-bots (which are extremely real…well in terms of nano technology) working together as a single unit. Now the producers have said this is not the case and it is not a swarm of nanobots BUT it does prove how easily something like that could be explained with logical (and theoretical) science… ghostrider…

i've listened to all of the podcasts, i don't recall them ever dismissing another dimension, and this is not out of the realm of possibility, and could in theory be explained by science. even Einstein had theories about different dimensions, and time… read Einstein’s Dreams, good book

Well then, like you just stated… it's not nano technology. Perhaps you have another theory you would like to share to all of us before you contradict yourself again.

Ok, i won't bother going and finding the physical proof where the producers said "no purgatory, aliens, time travel, alternate dimensions, reality tv shows and so on" instead i will come back with one incontrovertable argument and that is the rest of the people in the real world, like naomi's boat, and like PENNY who Charlie spoke to in the season finale.

an alternate dimension has nothing to do with aliens, purgatory, magic, or time travel. it has been a topic of great interest in science fiction for years, it is outside the physical something that is beyond our understanding as of yet. there is nothing to say that a person in a different dimension would be incapable of talking to someone in the "real" world, a different dimension is still part of the same world. and yes i would like to know which podcast states specifically that it is not another dimension, if you can do that i'll take it all back

I didn't contradict myself, i showed how ever a black swarm could easily be explained by science, but you want to know my theory? Ok.

The black cloud is the result of an unbalanced and unfinished equation, specifically the Valenzetti equation which the Dharma Initiative were trying to change. For those of you that don't know, and I will assume by your already supposed ignorance that you don't, the Valenzetti equation is the equation which gives numeral values to the end of the world. Drumroll please, these values are: 4,8,15,16,23,42 and they predict when the world will end whether it is through famine, over population war, ect. The Dharma Initiative was sent to the island to change this equation, they were put into different stations and a radio tower was erected on the island which broadcast the numbers on a continous loop. Once they had changed the equation in any way they were to go to the radio tower and alter the message so that Hanso would know the "true way" had been found. Simply the monster is a result of an accident which occured in the Swan or on the Island (they make reference to this but it's not clear which one they are referring to) and it now roams the Island trying to balance or solve this equation. THAT is why it sounds like a calculator (in Season 1 Locke uses a calculator at the box factory that sounds just like the monster see episode 4 season 1 if you want proof) THAT is why it kills people, and that is why it watches people, studies them (like it did to Juliet) and ever times helps or hinders them.

It wasn't in a podcast, let me find the article where they stated it, this was before the podcasts i believe, that or they simply didn't bring it up in a podcast. But why don't you answer me this question first. If it is an alternate dimension, let's say for a minute i believe you. If it IS an alternate dimension then explain the Dharma Initiative.

First, how did they (along with Rousseau, Naomi, and all the people Ben brought) get on the Island. Second how are people in our world in contact with the island. And don't try saying "oh they could all be part of that dimension" because season 2.5(the hanso season) disproves that theory since they make specific reference to the Dharma Initiative failing and it is meant to be happening in the real world right now.

the black swarm is bad editing – they filmed the scene on tape, someone spilled coffee on it.

sorry guys, but thats the smoking gun.

interesting. I really like your theory about the equation…very intelligent.

Wow…you’re a nerd. So according to your almighty wisdom, we are ignorant because we don't know about the venzetti equation (forgive me if I spelled it wrong). I think your losing yourself in your science. Just because the monster is trying to bring balance to this supposed equation does not mean that the monster is logical. You offered no reason as to why the monster could actually exist according to science; "Drum roll please", give me a break.

Hahah thank you, i just kind of put that one together with season 2.5, it's probably not right but a good guess i figure.

Wow…it's kinda sad that the best insult you could come up with is "your a nerd" I'm pretty sure you not being in the conversation until now shows that I wasn't reffering to you when i said ignorant. To be perfectly honest I have no idea how the monster could exist in science, perhaps it is a mass of anti gravity, or maybe some kind of magnetic field i have no clue. You don't have to be a nerd to know any of these things, you just have to be slightly less of a dumbshit then you.

alright, i'm talking about a bermuda triangle kind of idea here, counless number of ships have been lost to this phenomenon, and for the same reason the black rock, Danielle's ship, and all the others were lost to the island. the Dharma Initiative is there to study said phenomenon, and its the island that is in contact with the outside world, it wasn't untill charlie unblocks the signal that penny is able to make contact. but i'll give you the equation, i'm going to check that out

^^^^crazy… and makes sense…triangle..ya kinda!

right thats it, Patty buddy chill out brother, we're just bouncing around some ideas here, chill man, come on

No need to look, for everyone who didn't do season 2.5 hereis the ultimate result, i assure you this is 100% genuine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrAsRPP2I38&mode=related&search=

I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who came in here slinging insults, i gave my opinions and was called a nerd…I just responded a bit more actively is all.

Alright, I was out of line, I apologize. But you said "For those of you that don't know, and I will assume by your already supposed ignorance that you don't". "Those of you" sounds an awful like "anyone" that does not know about the equation. I don't mean to offend you, I think your idea is sort of convoluted.

Ok well my bad, i take back what i said too.

what was that suposed to prove? its part of the 'lost experiance" AKA. for those of us that have i bit too much time on our hands, anyway. did you find that article from the producers?

Make no mistakes, he was referring to me when he said 'ignorant.' No, I have not researched the Valenzetti equation to the exent that you have; or for that matter nano technology. I will do some research and see what I can find.

I was stating an opinion about a tv show that obviously you have taken way too serious. Either way, no one knows what the hell is going on and we will not find out for another couple years.

I was personally leaning toward the electro magnetism theory myself.

I am froced to agree with the magnetic feild and an accident with the swan station, he sercuirty seytem/ back smoke is the embodymeint of a workers at swan, his last concious thought, the eqaution got locked in a constent replay mode, the sounds and smoke are of the accident the accured with the magentic abnormaility within the swan station,

Hahah i definately didn't even start looking, i'll get on that. It was simply supposed to show what the valezetti equation was, I didn't really partake in the Lost Experience just bits and pieces and that Hanso site, but i figured it's a pretty cool video and it plays into my theory about the monster.

And where can I read up more about the nano technology… if you have any sites, post them. I would like to read them.

Valenzetti equation is only part of the lost experiance we can't take this as fact, but really here we're arguing over a tv show, a great tv show, don't get me wrong. but as phil said the answers will come

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotechnology

I'd say start there and work from it, I don't know, google is always good. I'm not actually doing any hardcore research into any of these things I'm just stating a theory/opinion.

I don't get it, why does everyone like Charlie so much? I mean I don't hate him but I can't see what all the fuss is about.
Someone let me know why.

You've got me there.

nice guy.
funny guy.
great hair.
plays guitar.

what more could you want?

haha.

Becuase he was the one who died most recently. That's my guess anyway.

The problem for me is that Charlie re-enforces the stereotypical view that all English people are either from London or Manchester.

Actually, Charlie is my favorite character, and sadly he is gone.

My preference to him lies in his dark nature and the trouble he's had.

He was a down and out musican, and had a one hit wonder thus thrusting him into stardom, he became addicted to heroin and we all see what happens in his life.

We see him in the pilot in the restroom snorting heroin, we see him attack sun, we see him hung by his neck (this is where I began to love him), we see him battle his demons and conquer heroin, we see him save jack from being burried alive, we see him scathe off death dozens of times. And In the end he sacrifices himself to protect the ones he loves most.

he is also the funniest castaway, his sarcasm is one of his greatest assets.

I'll miss him, guess now I have to like sayid more.

Because he's just awesome!

I think we should keep in mind, Charlie also caused the cave in which he had to rescue Jack from.

ok how hard is it for u to see? i mean honestly…he died so the other ppl could get rescued how is he not likeable?

I agree with Jesse.(except for the liking Sayid part)

and even though he caused the cave-in,
he redeemed himself by getting Jack out.

Did I ever say he isn't a likable character? He isn't my favorite character, but I never said he isn't likable. What is so hard for you to understand?

He's an underdog and underdogs are likable.

nobody said you did.

Tyler suggested I couldn't understand how he's a likable character. I understand why he's likable, I'm just not sure why he's anyones TOP character. Yes he sacraficed himself, but so did Boone. Just because Boone didn't KNOW he was going to die, it doesn't make his sacrafice any less noble than Charlie.

Hey, whats wrong with sayid, Gulf war vet, torturer, been involved in terrorism plots, pretty sweet character. Not to mention he was Kip in the English Patient.

Don't think its that big of a deal for charlie to have caused the cave in either, if his shouting was enough to collapse the caves it would happen eventually.

I just find him alittle dull, apart from the fact he was going to die and the drugs, what use has he been. Its not like he offers anything to the group or and insight into the island.

I gave you my reasons why he's my top character.

In addition, boone died in the 20th episode of the first season that is 52 episodes previous, and has shown up maybe 4-5 times in visions and flashbacks.

I don't see how the two can compare as top characters. Someone around for 20 episodes, or someone around for 72. If your still ranking boone so high, than you might want to buy the 2nd season on DVD and rewatch the 3rd season as well to move on from the first.

ehh. idk.
he just isn't one of my favorites.

didnt mean u i meant the first guy to post…my fault

That's not what I ment. I was simply pointing out that had he not caused the cave in, Jack would not have needed help. Also, he would have been better able to fight Ethan, as the cave in is how Jack hurt his arm if I recall correctly. It's been awhile so I could be mistaken.

I'm not saying Charlie deserves our loathing, I'm just not sure why he's anyone's top lostie.

Me?
I dont find him likeable cause, like i said i don't see whats so special, its not like he does anything. And so what he died, he didnt have to he could have got out before the room flooded.

Got it, and no problem.

I've always liked Charlie, he's funny and sweet and it made me happy to see him and Clair with little Aaron!

My heart hurt when everyone on the island turned against him.

I'll probably miss him next season, even though he died so that he could save everyone

What did you think of him when it came to light that it was Charlie that kidnapped Sun in order for Sawyer to steal the guns? He's not always the warm fuzzy guy he's been recently.

Exactly Why I Like Him, The Duality Of The Character Is The Perfect Explination Of Lost.

We Have His Good, Pure, Kind, Humourous Side And We Have His Evil, Addictive, Selfish Side.

kind of splitting hairs here, but it could be argued that if charlies yelling caused the cave in, then it would have happened eventually anyway..better to just have jack in there alone then say, claire..

No, better to have Michael, an architect, check it out before testing for cave-ins.

Lets get back to the actual issuse, Charlie, why does everyone like him?

People are attracted to different personalities for different reasons. Your personality is different than mine therefor I enjoy personalities different than ones you might enjoy. I think its just that simple.

Personally I love Charlie because he brought humor to the show and to be honest I have a little school girl crush on him. He may not be as wise as some others on the show wise but hes had his heroic moments, hes a good guy and has been a good friend to many people on the island and died for the woman he loves! What girl can't appreciate that? Ok thats probably my crush again! lol

Now Sayid on the other hand, hes great for the show, very smart, helpful, heroic, and a great guy. Not a fan of his personality but thats just me.

They all play their parts in their own way and the show wouldn't be the same without any one of them!

Ok the other threads are kinda dead… :| so here we go! :P

HOW TOPLAY
We have right here a list of characters! All from Lost. Each character starts here with ten points, but you guys are all gonna take 1 point off one character, and put it back on another one. you have to TAKE TURNS in this and you cant vote more than once in 15 minutes, otherwise it gets really boring

So i think you know the rules, lets go

10 Liam
10 Charlie
10 Jack
10 Sawyer
10 Paulo
10 Sayid
10 Jin
10 Michael
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond

Ok vote for the biggest hottie gogogo!

11 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Charlie
10 Jack
10 Paulo
10 Michael
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin (-)
9 Sayid

ok first of all ithink there are clear racial undertones to this – i dont personally find asian peolple attractive either but i woud NEVER admit that ona puvblic forum

secondly: we already HAVE one of these games gfoing on? hello girls!wakey wakey!

11 Liam
11 Jack ( )
10 Charlie
10 Sawyer
10 Paulo
10 Jin
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Sayid
9 Michael (-)

oh dea sorry emma i did not realise you had posted

ok:
12 Sawyer ( )
11 Liam
10 Charlie
10 Jack
10 Paulo
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
9 Michael (-)
9 Sayid

Let's just hope that Laimute won't take over again *nervous twitch*

13 Sawyer ( )
11 Liam
10 Charlie
10 Jack
10 Paulo
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
9 Sayid
8 Michael (-)

BTW: I did think it was a sweet idea of Meaghan to add last names, but that's just my opinion *get's fire extinguisher out of fear of being flamed by Laimute*

i thought it was not sweet, it was he rbeing a controlling bitch and she should not have done it

but thank you for your support
anyway on with the show

I have a supporter! Yay! Oh man, this is just amusing. Oh, and if you so pissed just because I added last names, well you need anger management classes. Just a friendly suggestion. I'm not arguing with you here, so don't even bother calling me a 'cunt', 'boring slag' 'bitch' or anything else.

13 Sawyer
11 Charlie ( )
11 Liam
10 Jack
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
9 Sayid
9 Paulo (-)
8 Michael

13 Sawyer
12 Charlie ( )
11 Liam
10 Jack
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
8 Sayid(-)
9 Paulo
8 Michael

Like I said, anger management. So angry over such a trivial thing. I'm done arguing with you.

13 Charlie ( )
13 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Jack
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Paulo (-)
8 Michael

14 Charlie ( )
13 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Jack
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Jin
8 Paulo
8 Michael
7 Sayid(-)

15 Charlie ( )
13 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Jack
10 Hurley
10 Richard
10 Ben
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
08 Jin (-)
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo

15 Charlie
13 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley ( )
10 Jack
10 Richard
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Ben (-)
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo

16 Charlie ( )
13 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
10 Jack
10 Richard
10 Tom
10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
6 Paulo (-)

15 Charlie
14 Sawyer( )
11 Liam
11 Hurley
10 Jack
10 Richard

10 Mikhail
10 Desmond
9 Tom(-)
9 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo

whos liam?

16 Charlie ( )
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
10 Jack
10 Richard
10 Desmond
9 Mikhail (-)
9 Tom
9 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo

You guys do realize this game is for the hottest guy right? just checking…

15 Charlie (-) he's great, but hes ugly as hell
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
10 Jack
10 Richard
10 Desmond
9 Mikhail (-)
9 Tom
9 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
8 Paulo ( ) u guys are joking right, hes BEAUTIFUL

i love charlie, i think hes adorable! to b honest, paulo aint to hot, in my opinion, like hes hot, but not so so much…sawyers the hottest tho…richard and ben scare the crap outta me

next person that replies this topic, can youplease tell me who liam is?

Oh we know. Liam is Charlie's brother.

16 Charlie ( )
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
10 Jack
10 Richard
10 Desmond
9 Mikhail
9 Tom
9 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo (-)

Liam is Charlie's older brother, living in Sydney with his wife and baby. Charlie went to visit him to try to give DriveShaft a comeback, but Liam wasn't interested.

16 Charlie
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
11 Jack ( )
10 Richard
10 Desmond
9 Mikhail
9 Tom
8 Ben (-)
8 Jin
8 Sayid
8 Michael
7 Paulo

I have not idea what's going on but calling another female the "c" word is disgusting and really uncalled for in a public forum!

16 Charlie
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
11 Jack
10 Richard
10 Desmond
9 Mikhail
9 Tom (-)
8 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
7 Michael (-)
7 Paulo

why isn't kate on this list?

crap i messed up

16 Charlie
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
11 Jack
10 Richard
10 Desmond
10 Tom ( )
9 Mikhail
8 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
7 Michael (-)
7 Paulo

17 Charlie ( )
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
11 Hurley
11 Jack
11 Richard
10 Desmond
10 Tom
9 Mikhail
8 Ben
8 Jin
8 Sayid
6 Paulo (-)
6 Michael

17 Charlie
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Hurley (-) ?
11 Jack
11 Richard
10 Desmond
10 Tom
9 Sayid ( )
9 Mikhail
8 Ben
8 Jin
6 Paulo
6 Michael

18 Charlie ( )
14 Sawyer
11 Liam
10 Hurley
11 Jack
11 Richard
10 Desmond
10 Tom
9 Sayid
9 Mikhail
8 Ben
8 Jin
6 Michael
5 Paulo (-)

Check this out:
http://au.yahoo.com/lost/video/3

Find secret clue 13.

It points out the whole locke is dry then wet thing which we've talked about. But then it brings up the location of the submarine. It's on the left side of the dock when he is walking out there. When he is walking back, after planting the C4, the sub is gone

just want to let everyone know, i called this

The question now is why would he move it? We all know Locke doesn't want to get off the island but that doesn't mean he wants to stop everyone else from leaving. Locke is pulling the con now.

HAhaha what
Why did he shoot Naomi, attack Sayid and blow up the communication hatch if he didn't want anyone else to leave the island?

Just watched the video and though of something .. is it possible to leave a submarine if it is submerged I don't think it is … anyone know?

Yeah it’s not possible that I know of. He may have just moved it… he didn't have to submerge it. Then he would just swim back to the dock. Good points about stopping communication with the outside world. But those cases would have brought people to the island. With the sub he can have people leave without drawing attention to the island itself. Locke wants to protect the island.

Valid points.

But I still think he wants to keep everyone on there, he was telling Jack they weren't supposed to leave … but I haven't seen it in a while, I could be imagining that …

So the door to a sub opens out right? This means to open it you would have to push from the inside. The difference in pressure would not allow you to push open the door. The only way that I see this would be possible is to have left the door open while it submerged filling the sub with water which would make it impossible to use anyway. I guess I don't know much about subs and maybe they have a special way to get out if its submerged but I just don't buy into this whole theory. Locke definitely knows they shouldn't leave the island and I see no reason why he wouldn't destroy it. Plus the shot where you can't see the sub anymore isn't a very good shot, kinda dark and can't really see much of anything in the background.

"Yeah it’s not possible that I know of. He may have just moved it… he DIDN'T have to submerge it. Then he would just SWIM back to the dock."

-copied from previous post

Once a submarine is underwater the hatch cannot be opened.

the sub does NOT have to be submerged.

That isn't the question. The question is, if Locke didn't blow it up, what did he do with it and where did he put it?

We're getting into this again? If he did blow it up, then he likely placed the C4 on the outer hull. I can't see the video on this computer, so I don't know what's going on, though I doubt they would actually blow up an expensive prop and pray they get the shot they want on the first take.

I think maybe everyone is overlooking one large detail. If something blows up there is debris. So if Locke didn't blow up the sub then he either blew up nothing or blew something else up in its place. If he blew up nothing they won't find debris, if he blew something else up they are going to find pieces of whatever that was instead of the pieces of the sub. The others aren't stupid, they would look in the water and figure it out.

So Locke gets into the sub… turns on the lights… then continues to walk deeper into the sub. Then I guess he would climb back out…. jump into the water and sets the c4. What was the whole point of going into the sub in the first place if he's just going to plant the explosives on the outside?

So to you it makes more sense for Locke to be a trained submarine pilot? Whatever turns your crank Ryan.

how do we know locke doesn't know how to pilot a submarine?

there was that little conversation with Ben that went something like this:

Ben: when you get to the submarine, what are you going to do with it? you can't drive it.
Locke: I'll figure something out

now thats obviously not direct quotes but i do recall the scene hinting that perhaps locke knew how to pilot the sub?
That of course raises the question of why wouldn't the others know that locke can pilot a sub when they seem to know everything else about him? and its a very good question that I can't answer… so I am just gonna go with the safe answer and say "Jacob did it"
just kidding of course…
I'd like to think locke moved the sub, and i think the only thing stepping in the way of that theory is the "how does locke know how to drive a sub" thing…

So we are either way off base with this one (which I don't think we are) or we are missing a big chunk of Locke's past life. Plus, Locke has really good tracking abilities and other knowledge of the wilderness. I don't think he learned all of that just by hunting with Cooper.

And how do you know he does know? You don't. You're just making an assumption. Nothing we've seen in Locke's past over the last 3 years even suggests that he has the slightest idea of how to pilot a sub.

Exactly. If the Others know everything else about the Losties, what makes us think that would be the one bit of information they wouldn't have?

yeah… i think i said that in my post…

Hence me saying "exactly".

well alright then, haha

gotta love the internet, people could argue for a month over something they all agree on

Very true. The main problem is tone of voice carries a lot more information than people realize. It isn't until all you have are the words that it becomes apparent.

yeah, that was my point

Just kidding! ha

Tell me what you guys think about this one. It's a little off topic but it relates to Locke. Is it possible that he's been on the island before. From the get go in the flashbacks he always seemed to have a depressed attitude similar to Jack in TTLG. But he finally somehow returns to the island. He's always seemed like he knew what he was doing and what was going while there. Plus you have Mikael recognizing him, too. I've not looked too deep into this I'm most likely wrong but I just wanted to bring it up.

I'm not sure that he has been to the island before.. However, I do believe (certainly in the early stages of his arrival on the island) that he may have been experiencing premonitions (possibly similar to Desmond's flashes). He does seem to know exactly what to do and where to go… Helps Jack on ledge, he knows it is going to rain in exactly 1-minute's time (when speaking to Boone) etc.

This may be a result of him coming face to face with what we assume is Smokey…

completely unrelated, and sorry if its bin answered, BUT -

WHY THE HELL IS LOCKE STOPPING EVERYONE LEAVING THE ISLAND! if he doesnt wanna go cos the Island "healed" his legs, then fine, stay there. But why jeapodise everyone elses chances?! thats THEIR choice, not yours. YOU'RE NOT GOD, MOTHERF***ER

*cough* sorry…
xxxxxx

Well the most obvious answer is, look at Jack after he gets off the Island. Was it a good thing? Doesn't look like it.

Then there's the less obvious answer: He doesn't want them telling others about the Island. He fears that should people come to the Island(as Dharma did) that they would corrupt the Island. It isn't about not wanting people to leave, it's about not wanting "bad" people coming to the island and fucking it up.

I don't think Jack's depression is from his life not being fulfilled because he left the island or anything like that. I think it's going to have something to do with how they got off the island and who they left behind.

Jack definitaly

Sawyer if she wants hot sex. Jack if she wants money and an easy life (although he's hard work).

Jack!

Sawyer is the man. Jack thinks way to much.

Sawyer! Kate brings out the best in him.

i vote 4 jack.

this question is so wrong because she chose sawyer:)

sawyer jacks a knob!

Sawyer for life!

JACKKKKK! ! !

JATE! all the way

Jack is the best !

Jack all the way..they have been meant to be together since the first episode.

While I like Sawyer more, Kate should choose Jack. Not that she can choose anyone else, it's their destiny ;]

Sawyer! Kate makes him a better person. Plus Sawyer already loves Kate while Jack's locked between her and juliet.

Jack, because….Sawyer's too good for her. No, seriously. I dont like Kate.

she has chosen but she shud go for jack he is her type! cocky!

Call me old-fashioned, but I think Kate should definitely go for Juliet…

Kate's a user. She should CHOOSE to go back to her flippin' husband and have taco nights again.

Any real woman would pick Sawyer! :P

Ben

Jack in seasons 1 and 2 was so dreamy but now i think kate is better off with Sawyer. Jack is too trusting.

Sawyer. Kate is good for him because she doesn't take any of his crap.

Jack. Sawyer's a heartbreaker…all those bad boys are…

Please Sawyer! I just watched Season 1 again and I have to say Jack is such an arrogant ***. I kinda hate him now! And Sawyer and Kater are such a lovely couple!

Bernard

…whilst Rose sucks jack off

Jack……

the moment the first episode aired…. u knew it was fate

Sawyer or maybe choose a third guy..

I agree…I think it would be cool if she ended up with someone else…say Hurley? LOL…but honestly..Kate doesnt need any more drama. I love Sawyer but I don't know if he'd be best for her. Also, Jack, is gonna just be too fucked up after the island to make a good relationship. Kate needs to start anew with someone who is all about the fun….Hurley, or Sayid, they have good chemistry.

omg if you watch the first season jack and kate had moments, the writers wanted them together they just added sawyer for drama, watch theres gonna be a fight in the fourth season

Anyone else find it strange that Locke could not find Jacob's cabin?

Hurley thought it was the other way.

Is Locke losing his mind?

I think the Jacob/the cabin decides whether you see him/it or not. With everyone with John, it wasn't going to reveal itself.
Plus, I think it's more of a spiritual symbolism thing, maybe it's not in the same place all the time, I don't think Hurley saw it in the same place as John.

Nope. I think Jacob "hid" the cabin. We know Jacob only wishes to speak with "special" people, and Locke brought everyone with him.

What Brianne and Dylan said. And no, Locke will never lose his mind or anyone else's, unless it's a sacrifice that the Island demands. ;)

Hey Bobby, I was wondering what you thought of what I said about the difference between the rocket clock and Daniel's clock.

Sounds right. It would also tie into Ben's insistence to Michael that he follow a certain "bearing" to find rescue.

That said, I'm still skeptical of the "man on boat = Michael" theory, but we'll see what happens.

personally, i think Locke lost his mind a long time ago.
With the whole "powers of the island" thing.
I think Hurley was right about the cabin. i think hurley is one of the 'special ppl'

Also, the two times the Cabin has been seen it has been night time…but I do like the notion Locke brought too many people with him.

Locke should've really known better as it pertains to Jacob and his "availability".

the best explanation i've been able to think of for this is that it's because Jacob's a man who summons you (according to Ben) and that's why Locke couldn't find it. (although Ben wasn't summoned, but he still found it when he took Locke there)

I love the way people talk about this invisible/disappearing cabin as though it was perfectly normal lol.

In one thread we're trying to work out (using real science) how the time difference could have occured with Daniel's payload, then when talking about the cabin it's just like "oh, Jacob hid it. next question?" lol

Is there anything scientific (or pseudo-scientific) that could be used to explain this cabin business? I can only think of one thing but I haven't thought it through properly yet… so I'll wait a bit before posting.

Otherwise we might as well say Jacob made the payload get stuck in a cloud for 31 minutes.

I think that Jacob has the ability to influence minds directly. I can't explain how it works, but I believe Jacob is related to the para-psychological research Dharma was conducting on the Island. While he's able to make people see things, I believe he's also able to make them NOT see things, for example himself and in this case the cabin.

Ok, that could work. But in that case, does the cabin actually exist? Could bring everything back round to philosophy again – idealism and such.

Nice picture.

Jacob threw an invisibility cloak on the cabin. Ooops, wrong story!

LOL Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. I am having one of those brain dead days!

Good shout, it's too easy to just ignore the obviously unanswerable questions, its like no-one puts any stock in whatever the fuck paolo was staring at during expose after the plane crashed (watch the scene, do it, NOW, they never show anything without reason, Paolo is staring out at sea, if that was for no reason then ill be grate my armpits) also how the hell does juliets sister survive cancer? no-one knows so it gets skipped by, tis the bane of my existence, i want random facebookers to answer my questions now off you go

1- Paolo was having a flashforward about spiders.
2-Juliet's sister. It was a miracle. Who can explain a miracle? Or else Ben would have cured himself…

1. I'm not on about the spider scene. When you watch the scene with the plane crash, Nikki runs over to Paolo and he is looking out to sea in a way that is weird and attracts attention that is fairly usual when the lost writers want your attention.
2. You could be right. But I dont think a miracle is going to please lost fans, not really

He'd just been in a plane crash. How about shock?

Nope, your are absolutely right,not for a single second!

As for number 1, I was being a smart alec. I know what you are talking about. And, you are probably right. I do not think that we have seen the end of the Paolo and Nikki story.

Yes I know I know but you'd think we'd be aware of the fact they were in shock by now. Please go and watch it again, if you can come back and say that it's just a random scene then fair enough thats what you believe, but they REALLY focus on it, I cant help but feel it means something. Sans wormholes, sorry :-P

I did just re-watch it. It seems like he was just in a daze cos he had to be sorta shaken out of it.

Hmmm, when was the last time the writers of this show wanted us to see a character in a daze? Come on Charlene, say it, I am a chinese dancing horse, look at my hooves of cress. Although now that ive brought it up we'll never hear about this scene again probably. By the way, you know they're releasing a Lost video game? If they put any answers on that game, im going to buy JJ Abrams household appliances on EBay then sell them back to him at an inflated price, the cheeky minstrel

Thanks. :)

As for Juliet's sister, perhaps Ben simply lied to her and the cancer never really had come back.

I don't mind the cabin business as of right now because there's a lot of parapsych/paranormal stuff that is involved in the show and that Dharma was looking to research because of all the weird properties of the Island.

But if we're going to question the time delay or the cabin disappearing then what about the Black Smoke too?

I think the cabin is to harry potter and Gryffindor's sword. It's there when you need it and when you don't it's in hiding.

sorry for the nerd-on nerd action

Yes. I believe the cabin is just as real as the Island. It's likely still physically where Locke remembers it, only his mind(due to Jacob's influence) is simply not able to perceive it.

1) It could be something as simple as shock. He just survived a plane crash, some people have been known to react to a situation like this by staring off into space. There may be more to this down the line, but as of right now, this is the most logical explanation.

2) Ben told us Jacob cured her. So far we have no reason to believe he was lying.

No. I think there's only one cabin and it is where Ben took Locke to meet Jacob. I think when Hurley saw it, Jacob was trying to contact Hurley. I think the cabin as Hurley saw it was a psychic projection. Though I'm not entirely sure why, but my thoughts so far are that Jacob can make people "special", and that he contanted Hurley because he knows he's leaving the Island, and he needs him to commune with Charlie in order to feel the need to return.

I don't think it was hallucination, since he imagined the cabin perfectly with two people inside whom he's never met.

I don't think its a hallucination, I think its pretty safe to say there are some things going on, on the island science can't exactly explain
I think Locke has sort of "lost his way" he is lost right now

Jacob will only appear to John when John is ready for Jacob to appear to him, and right now John is waaay too worked up for that to happen

It's hard to put into words but it's like just because Locke wants to see jacob, doesn't mean he is going to be able to see jacob
and it all ties in with the fact there were 20 some people with him when he went there

Perhaps its the Canadian in me, but I felt this was a worthwhile topic to start up… whats the deal with the others and Canada?

We all know, ethan said he was from canada, I recall a couple other canadian references as well, but the main thing I would like to bring up here is from the season 3 finale

when Mikhail said to the chicks in the looking glass"I thought you were on assignment in Canada?"
your probably thinking, well they were just lying to cover up the fact they were down there but thats not what i am getting at here…
Mikhail thought they were on assignment in Canada! Why would they be in Canada? what were they doing?

thoughts? concerns?

Canadian paranoia.

Ya i noticed it too..maybe ppl in the States think we are worth spying on..:P

no its just canada… like no one would care enough to ask about it. its just canada

I would imagine recruiting. The same reason Ethan and Richard went to Florida.

Typical American, make me wanna barf.

I think it's more like no one would suspect Canada He can't be evil, he's from Canada

The can't communicate from Canada, they all live in igloos there!

Couldn't agree more. Though we should probably say "stereotypical American".

OK OK, stereotypical American :P

But when I went to New York once, a saleswoman actually did ask me about igloos … prettttyyyy sad.

First of all…saying typical/stereotypical American is a little ridiculous coming from a Canadian considering a Canadian is an American! And I'm sure that Canadians have just as many stereotypical people as the states do…for example thinking everyone from the states is stereotypical.

Well, no, sorry, I am not American, there is a difference between a Canadian and an American, did you not know that?

"A Canadian is an American"

Ha, you only wish we Canadians were Americans. We may have the same culture and look alike but we are profoundly different.

But back to the main point of the topic. I have noticed all the Canadian talk. Maybe everyone is of the opinion that we are up to something?

Sorry Dana, that's incorrect. Canadians are North Americans, not Americans. Americans is a term used to describe a person from the United States of(you guessed it) America. In fact, people from the states use it to describe themselves. So what would someone from the US call themselves? A united statesian?

Man you guys are picky! Its all North America…I guess I'm just from Michigan and used to Canadians being around and going to Canada. I just never saw that big of a difference.

Well no offense, but if you were connected to a country which caused as much trouble around the world as the US, I'm sure you wouldn't want to be associated with them either.

Again, this is nothing against Americans as individuals, it's about the way the country is run.

I'm actually quite connected to it….living in it and all. You make a good point the US is pretty messed up sometimes and its a pretty conceited country. Honestly many people here have the impression that anyplace other than the US is a third world country. I have a friend that moved here from England and shes had people ask her questions like if they have seatbelts or DVD players over there! All I'm saying is that you can't judge everyone here, just because we all live in the same place doesn't mean we're all the same. Anyway I don't want to start yet another heated debate over something having nothing to do with Lost.

Before I talk about the real topic here I just wanna say that I think the US media has a lot to do with it. I've been to the US many times and the only international news they get is what's going on with their war on Iraq and all that. I've noticed that many countries besides the US take notice of their own news as well as international news and affairs of other contries, but the US focuses mainly on the US and not much else of what is going on around them except for the middle-east. This is what I see anyway.

Now about Lost – I don't think there is much significance to the mention of Canada. I mean, you've got Sayid from the middle-east, Desmond from Scotland, Eko was from Africa, Charlie's from England, Claire's from Australia, so why not make Ethan from Canada? Does it really matter that they chose to make the one from Canada evil lol.

defiently not, but what i was wondering if why mikhail thought those 2 girls were on "assignment" in Canada (could have been any other country)… why would they leave the island?

The most logical reason would be they were just recruiting new people to come have babies on the island but…
the whacked out theory being there is one or more other parts of the world having similiar properties of the island.

probably not true but if it is… you heard it here first, haha

i think the island is hidden inside canada or something, like in a lake or hudson bay or between all those islands in the north, that's why when ethan said he was from canada he wasn't lying cuz he lives on the island in canada. except canada isn't in the south pacific, but maybe the pilot was going off course and went north instead of towards LA…. very stupid theory though, sorry.

Last I checked they didn't have a lot of tropical weather in Canada….

I agree with Dana on that one. The island can't be near Canada. For all intents and purposes they probably were just trying to recruit or whatever. Or maybe Mikhail was supposed to have said it to inforce the fact that he was out of the loop on the real deal and to get the audience thinking that there really is more more going on than what we're seeing.

What are you talking about? I just explained why Canadians don't want to be called American.

How did the plane get from the south pacific to Canada? From Australia, LA is north.

I noticed it too, but then again, Nathan is from Canada too but he wasnt part of the others….

Well I think the jury is still out on that one.

Has anyone thought that Ethan was actually from Canada, before he was recuited.

And you're both products of this Island on this side of the Atlantic.

Dont forget Kate is also Canadian…and Hurley owned a sneaker company in Canada, but I dont think that really matters.

Is Kate Canadian? I know Evangeline Lilly, the actress who plays her is, but not sure about the character… or is that what you meant?

Yea…remember in the first season when she was found in the barn….where the farmer took care of her…he asked if she was American, she said no "Canadian".

Thought that was pretty interesting…

Strange, kinda making the Canadians all the bad guys right….

Kate -the fugitive on the run
Ethan -the other who abducted Claire and nearly killed Charlie
Nathan -thought to be an other
Bonnie/Gretta -thought to be in Canada for an assignment
Hurley's Sneaker company -which caught on fire in Canada…8 people dead

Odd, eh.

It's very odd, probably doesn't mean anything though, but this is Lost so you never know

also, i believe Kate just lied saying she was Canadian when she was found in the barn.
that and the fact it seems like the FBI are the ones leading the chase for her, without even a mention of the RCMP or CSIS leads me to believe she is american… oh and the fact i think an episode mentions the state where she was born and grew up.. haha
but yes, it is weird that she lied saying she was Canadian… just another easter egg i guess

Kate is not Canadian, she only said she was. It was part of her cover while on the run.

Okay, this is repetitive, but seriously .. WHY doesn't anyone care? All we got was his brief apperance in the season premeire, and Hurley telling Claire, and Claire boo-hooing for a second.

What about the DS ring? And the Greatest Hits list? And wasn't Charlie Hurley's best friend? And wtf! Claire! NO emotion! She seems perfectly fine and a-okay, not affected by her boyfriend's death at all. I just don't get it.

NO TIIIIME WE GOTTA GO GO GOGOGO
Seriously…stuff on the island right now is fast paced. They'll get to it eventually…I hope.

Remember, Claire does not know about the ring nor the note. She did not go to the cradle after Charlie put the ring there. And there has only been 3-4 days since he died, we do not know if she cries at night. Some people do not like to show emotions around other people. Claire was also very upset when Hurley told her. So, we must be patient. Also, no body was found(yet). Give it time.

Ohh very true. Plus they had to film like, hardcore because of the strike. Every episode has been very action packed, stuffed to the brim with .. stuff, haha. I didn't think about that .. I'm just bummed and all. I kinda miss the slow, meandering LOST of seasons 1 and 2 where we could really focus on one character. I feel like we keep skipping around .. which is cool, but I feel less connected to the characters. I dunno xD

I know what you mean. I bet Monique will agree with you there ;)

But I suppose I like the answers even better. I'm just that kinda guy.

I wonder if Desmond is aware of the list in his pocket, or if it got ruined when he dove in the water? o_o

OH how you know me well John : ) I want it all! The answers, the relationships, the individual attention. Boy, do I sound like woman or what! lol

Haha you aren't alone, I feel the same way. I wish LOST was 2 hours long an episode :P

I need to watch that part of the scene again. I think that Charlie put the paper in Desmond's pocket after he knocked him out. So, until Desmond looks there…we will never know. Charlie did use a permanent marker and the paper was folded in his shirt pocket. I have washed shirts that had money folded in the pockets and it survived if it stayed there. The same with written notes. As long as it was folded and did not get wrung out (spelling). It should be ok.

Now, if only Desmond could look in his pocket. I can imagine a whole scene here. Claire dies before Desmond can give her the note, he gives the note to someone going to the island and it gets put with her when she gets buried… sniff, sniff (this is not a spoiler,don't worry, I am just making this up!)

That still would not be enough! Oh, how pathetic. Thank God my husband loves to watch the show. We are now on season three again! Unfortunately, he does not like to discuss it as much as I do. He gets tired of it eventually, not moi!

i think it's going to be brought up again soon.
like, claire or hurley is going to have a heart to heart about it with someone, maybe each other, i dunno.

Haha yeah, and Claire STILL needs to get Charlies top 10 list

i think it was just top 5? lol but yeah.
i hope desmond mentions it?

I'm still VERY doubtful that Desmond saw Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter.. I still think he lied

^ iuno if desmond lied since we saw the vision and all… it would have made more sense for us to see him in a state of having a vision or having one of claire dying or something and then lying about it.

was the helicopter in that vision red? like a coast guard one or something? and the freighter one is different i think?

as for charlie's death on the island yea its only been a few days since he died and they've been pretty busy with things to sit around and mourn lol.. but his death did play a big part already other than what he did in the underwater station for the Losties.. him dying and passing the msg of not pennys boat got hurley and claire to go with locke

and i believe going locke is a mistake cuz didn't hurley regret it? he said something about it when playing bball with jack in FF

I agree. At the end of every show I feel like yelling, "Nooo!" because I know I can't pop in another disk to keep watching and I have to wait another whole week . . .

Don't forget that Jack eventually regrets NOT going with Locke. We don't know for sure which side is the "right" one.

maybe cuz he was…………………..……………………ugly?

and bee tee dulyew, all that top 5 list and the whole ring thing was just to build up emotion for his death….nothing more.

No one's sad about Charlie bcuz he's still alive…haha It's my theory and I've stuck with it since season 3 and I'm yet to be conviced otherwise

I personally don't need to see any LOST time wasted on Claire boo-hooing about Charlie…we all know she's sad, she has to be, as others were sad when other characters passed, but there is just too much information to cover in LOST to dedicate to mourning, especially with the writers strike…

I'm sure he'll come back in some capacity though…

Did anyone ever find out how/why Dominic was written out? Did he request it a la MR. Eko or was it the writer's idea? Why was it done to such a popular character?

They did it to Boone. The writers said at the beginning that nobody is safe. Now we do know that the Oceanic 6 are safe and Ben until next season at least or if they die in a flashforward.

Also, there is no body for Charlie so, even if the writers said he was dead, they could change their minds or tell us they lied…to surprise us!

So seeing him vanish into thin air in Hurley's flashforward didn't convince you?

Hurley's schizophrenic…we can't trust any visions he may have…

Really? I don't recall hearing that diagnosis, or is this the label you're putting on him? Having an imaginary friend spawned from a tragic event does not make one schizophrenic.

Besides, after what we just saw with Michael, are you entirely certain of your stance on Hurley's mental condition?

Yes very sure….Hurley saw visions before coming to the island…Plus being in a mental hospital for seeing imaginary people based on a tragic event is definitely schizophrenia…what else would they call it? even if it isnt the actualy diagnoses, he still saw ppl who weren't there long before he ever came to the island…

another man at the mental institution saw Charlie too and said "there's someone staring at you dude" or something like that…so i seriously doubt that Hurley is schizophrenic or however you spell it

haha bernhard you think hes still alive? i thought it was possible for a while cause once his little room filled up, why couldnt he just swim out the window it seemed big enough for him atleast. but i dont see how he would get anywhere, they were pretty far out. unless you think hes alive some other way