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After shotgun has been called, another rider who didn't call it and wanted shotgun can call "blitz." This is then followed by a mad dash or "blitz" to the shotgun door. Whoever's butt touches the shotgun seat first wins shotgun privilages, not necessarily who gets to the door first. If blitzer wins, then the original shotgun caller cannot complain. If he does, it's an automatic bitch seat.
Also, blitz is only between two people, the original shotgun caller, and the blitzer and does not apply to anyone else in the car, unless on the rare occasion that there is a blitz tie. Then all who tied are able to participate in the blitz.

whats the point in that rule! the whole point of shotgun is the first to call it, so if ure undermining the person who called it first there no point in having shotgun?

Good call john, its called shotgun for a reason! No such thing as blitz, but what about '5 SECOND RULE', if the car leaves your sight for more than 5 sec after you have called shotgun then the shotgun seat is up for the call again?

id go along with that as long as its not somelese wanting shotgun whos made you not see the car. if say the car pulled away for a reason, shotgun is back up for grabs.

the point of blitz is kinda the same thing as the re-load thing. it usually happens when nobody likes the person that called shotgun, including the driver, or if they aren't a good shotgunner, or don't deserve shotgun. so blitz is called, and the most deserving of shotgun wins.

Great rule, we use it all the time.. We yell Shotgun NO Blitz to be safe.

yep. it just makes the whole thing more interesting. especially if youre the driver.

That rule is gay.

Question: Do 5's exist? MEANING!-if you stop to get gas or to take a bathroom break the shotgunner can call 5's to save his seat for five minutes until he gets back. If time over-runs than anyone in the car or joining the ride may call it, completely new. Also, if time runs over the shotgunner has a chance to recall it again from the bathroom without having the car in sight, as long as he has a credible witness with him. The driver is always credible no matter how much of an ass he may be.

mate that is a rule that i shall be using from now on!

i thought that shotgun lasted until you got to your final destination, even through pitstops.

Blitz is the dumbest rule i've ever heard… with blitz there is no point in calling shotgun… You are making up rules here that violate the whole point of shotgun Jen and its not allowed… For Shame…

I do however agree that 5s exists….

maybe so… but as i am usually the driver, i do find it extremely humorous to watch two grown men wrestling each other to see who can get their butt on the seat first. and the loser usually ends up riding bitch seat, because by the time that they are done duking it out, everyone else is already seated. it just adds variety. and you can call "shotgun NO blitz," to ensure that you do get shotgun.

i'm totally all about the Blitz rule. It adds to the game and makes passengers prove themselves for the golden seat.

NOPE. No 5's. If the person riding shotgun has to go to the bathroom, it is their fault for not preparing better before assuming the shotgun postion. Once they loose contact with the car, shotgun is up for grabs again.

Thats absolute bullshit! Blitz my arse…shotgun is shotgun!

Ya but then how do u determine weather the person is looking away or not? Is it not a bit difficult 2 dicide?

Blitz is the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard! Only the driver can call reload, you can't just have everyone in the car shouting blitz every other second!

the new rule is "Joust". this means that when you call shotgun, you have to also call no jousts. if you do not call no jousts, then any other passenger is free to joust you. a joust consists of a best of three rock paper scissors game, winner takes the seat

Another bullshit idea!

The version we used was that the owner/driver of the car was able to declare blitz (or as we knew it, "bastard rules") if he or she was in the mood. Then everyone just had to brawl for the seat.

nah mate you cant call without the car in sight, thats textbook shotgun etiquetteIn fact the whole 5s things sucks, if you need to leave your seat that badly you run the risk of losing it, if you dont wanna risk it then you dont need it enough

Blitz is rubbish the same for joust otherwise u would need to say 'shotgun NO blitz, NO joust etc' and any of these other rubbish ideas, it makes it totally pointless. Shotgun is shotgun end of.
There is a 5 second rule whereas you leave the seat for 5 seconds or more then it is up for grabs to the 1st person into the seat. There is no saves ever.

the blitz idea is the stupidest thing i have ever heard… if that rule did exist… why would anyone bother calling shotgun and not just run to the car…? think about it… and you cant save your seat either… you leave it… you lose it…

i compltealy agree all these rules discussed are crap. blitz ruins the whole concept of the shotgun rule.

How come it's women who keep coming up with wank shotgun override ideas?

that blitz rule is so gay

Next you American's will be saying right then lets use actual shotgun's last man standing gets the seat.

Stupid rule!

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I see your point – but please don't tar us all with the same brush – I think these ideas suck – shotgun is the game – therefore shotgun = front seat. Always has been – always will be.

Can I add this one, as I have been trying to convince my younger sister of this for 24 years:-

As the eldest sibling, and therefore the one on whom your parents made all of their mistakes, you are automatically entitled to shotgun, when driving with one parent, and any younger siblings.

rubbish

i agree, i am normally in thte front, being the eldest, but my sister hasn't quite grasped the whole shotgun thing because she is small, so she demands to go in the front and i let her just to shut her up

I'd say that the standard shotgun rules should apply in this scenario, sorry.

I think the eldest sibling rule is unfair, and the fact one would assert that there should be such a rule is testimony as to why we NEED the shotgun arrangement. Automatic shotgun is something very very rare.

An even more logical argument would be "Tallest Sibling Rule" or "Longest Legged Sibling Rule" and because none is a perfect solution, I agree that they are all rubbish.

I think its Gay. Im the Youngest in the Family and Im the Only guy in the Family. So I think the Man should get Shotgun before his Sisters.

No way. There shouldn't be to many loopholes around having to yell the word. Pirate rule! thats the only exception.
It would suck if shotgun always were to be decided by rules, not the one that cals it first.

HOWVEER! the whole reason for this rule is driving laws that say kids have 2 be a certian age/weight to sit in the front. So the eldest gets the front FIRST. Then the next oldest sibling gets the front after the eldest has left for college or gets their own car. After which if riding in the family car again, then considering they have had a long time to be in the front, they will take the back. In the case of twins, it is the twin that came out first, and so on for children of multiple births. And with the weight issue sonce driving lawas vary from state to state, if the younger sibling is heavy enough or bigger than the older sibling, they can have the front cause lets face it , do you really want to be squished in the back with them?

How about this:

When selecting shotgun among siblings, and only siblings, if the elder or eldest sibling is AT LEAST 50% older than (i.e. 1.5 times as old as) the next younger sibling, he/she has the right to shotgun. Any siblings less than 33% younger than the eldest sibling may vie for shotgun according to the set rules of shotgun.

If non-sibling(s) are present, and these siblings are friends of a younger sibling who is at least 33% younger than (i.e. 2/3rds as old as) the eldest (riding) sibling, the eldest riding sibling may override shotgun. If the non-sibling(s) are not friends of any particular sibling, then all sibling rules are null and void.

Otherwise, all shotgun rules are valid and applicable.

Example: Two siblings, 16 and 10, are riding the same car. The elder sibling can, at his/her discretion, override shotgun. However, if a non-sibling, who is not accompanying the younger sibling and is also 10, were also riding, then shotgun rules may be applied.

It's a little long in description, but makes practical sense, in my opinion.

Wow thats a convoluted way of going about it, thats not what shotgun is about, its simple its to the point, and more importantly the general overiding principle of shotgun is awesomeness, its like its constitution, and having such a long winded rule is against that. booo.

i totally agree i have a brother and sisters my age, but technically i'm the oldest so i should get the front seat, yet my brother always seems to get it….EVEN when i yell "shotgun"

Yeah standard shotgun rules. Or failing that, parental authority. My folks always used to let me have the front seat on the way out, and my sis got it on the way back.

eldest sibling rule sucks arse… its as valid as the tallest person rule.

Being the eldest, I say this rule is unfair. Standard rules apply.

I agree with you. But having only brothers, its no problem to get them to listen. I just tell them: I'm in the front. End of argument!

there's a warning against children under 12 riding in shotgun.
older siblings should always get shotgun before younger ones, because everyone hates it when your younger sibling beats you at anything and then they smile back at you with this smug little look on their face.
or how about this:
anyone has a right to shotgun as long as they are over the age of 12, but if a younger sibling gets shotgun and rubs it in, they have to walk, or go in the trunk. or possibly just get punched in the face.

ALL people (younger / older sibling, male, female, whatever) have the right to call shotgun UNLESS they under the age / specified weight that is specified by the car for being able to safely ride in the car (I believe the age is 12, and the weight is 60 pounds – correct me if I am wrong).

And Anne, rubbing in that you got shotgun is one of the pluses of receiving it. Next time, call it first.

Standard Shotgun rules, shotgun does not recognise age.

well clearly the first twin out knows how shotgun works, cos i mean they called it first once before to get out of the womb first, now didn't they

me and my brother argue about this a lot……so we just follow standard shotgun rules

I think the eldest sibling rule is a terrible rule
The eldest sibling should know full well the rules of shotgun, and if a youger sibling does in fact call it first then sucks to be older.
I, as the youngest of four always got back seat untill the founding of shotgun.
Shotgun saved me!

I have to agree with this rule. For awhile my little bro and I alternated, but for the past 6 years or so, it's just a given that I get the front seat when I'm home.

bollocks to that
im 17 and my older brother (19) trys to use this "rule" all the time. i think that as soon as the younger child gets to the legal age to sit in the front they should have automatic shotgun because :

1). the older child will probably get their own car before the younger one so they can sit in the front all the time in their own car while driving.

2). i always wanted to sit in the front when i was little but my brother used to sit there cos he was older and my dad used to always tell me "you can sit in the front when your older" , not considering the fact that i may have aged but so has my brother so hes still the eldest so he still used to get shotgun …now im old enough for the "age rule " to not apply so i just try to run to the car first and refuse to move from the seat lol cos my brother adheres to the age rule more than the shotgun rule…bastard lol

oh and the tallest person rule is bollocks too cos my brother also uses this "rule" saying that hes cramped sitting in the back BUT when i sit in the back im cramped (even though im only 5"2) and i sit with my legs normal wheras even though my brothers taller he sits like normal guys do with their legs apart and therefore he isnt as cramped cos he hasnt got the the front chair digging into his knees like me

I agree, I have always had to give up the front seat to my elder sis, and the only time my younger sister has the front seat instead of me, is when we picked her up from hospital after surgery, and even then she was lucky to get it! lol
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I dont think the oldest should always necessarily get the front seat just because they are older. What if you have twins and one twin is only older by a few minutes that hardly makes them older. . .that doesnt seem fair. Since i was the youngest of four i was the favorite spoiled one so i always got shot gun.

Utter crap. As stated above, shotgun exists in order to prevent reason based arguments on who gets the front seat. My younger brother often tries the "I'm tall" argument, and then I use the "I'm older" argument. It's clearly not a productive use of time. Shotgun is fast and effective, and shows who truely wants it the most (which is the best reason of all).

Also, as the older sibling should be more cognitively developed (at least until the point where you're all adults anyway) they should be able to call shotgun faster every time. If they can't, then to be honest I don't think they deserve to have any special treatment.

SILLY. I'm the older and My bro is near a foot taller than I am. We use shotgun or diplomacy. Giving either of us the seat automatically is just silly. Although fi you really want to always be in the front, just carry an eyepatch and a stuffed parrot.

i think this rule is rubbish! shotgun is the only fair way to chose the shotgunner!
although could someone tell my brother this as im older, and i always call shotgun first cos im cleverer and i run to the car first cos im faster but he just comes up and pulls me out and gets the front seat cos hes bigger and stronger! wheres the fairness in that?!?!
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Whilst on a long weekend in the Dam we came up with this little beauty to decide who should complete any nasty tasks we were either too baked or too paranoid to manage.

Very simple set up:

Once a task is identified, either officially or otherwise, any member of the group, including the originator, simply calls:

'Shotgun-not-doing-it!'

The rest then verbally sprint to follow suit with the last man to call being the loser.

The only real rule being that as soon as you call you've committed to doing the task if you lose.

This is still used to this day by the guys who were there that weekend and I can't begin to count how many trips to the fridge etc it's saved me over the years!

I do think that simply 'shotgun-not' will be sufficient.

But this system risks introducing Shotgun into areas where it has no place. Trips to the fridge etc can be determined by a far simpler and fairer rota system.

Perhaps Shotgun could be used to establish the order of the rota to be used thereafter?

I like the much more simpler "Not It". Can be used in all situations and loses all chances for breaking shotgun rules.

just use the "not it nose touch" to signify who wins… when something needs to be done, just put your finger on your nose silently and whoever doesn't know what's going on, or the last one to do it if everyone knows the game, has to do said "something"

I must say, I think the "Shotgun" rule generally overrides all. Although the finger touching nose idea is a good one, for the people who don't know what that is an argument of "But I didn't know!" could ensure and prolong the activity. There would be no excuse if they didn't shotgun or shotgun-not it.

well… if they don't know it, they're automatically going to have to do it, now aren't they?

i have been using "shotgun not…." for many a month.. (sister in uni introduced me to it) and i have to say it kicks but.

The rents are too slow to know whats going on and my friends are barely catching on so i ALWAYS win :)

undoubtedly when i start to lose this game i will introduce the "not it nose touch" to my part of the world….

our variation goes by If the “shotgun not” ends in a situation where the loser is uncertain, we play “last one to sit down” rules.

Similar to the nose touch, but far more entertaining in public places ie: “go to the bar for me” ,“shotgun not” then everyone slams to the ground apart from the (normally) one person that either doesn’t know what’s going on, or is too embarrassed to sit down in a busy pub/club/supermarket etc etc.

They are automatically the loser and must do whatever was shotgunned against.

However, if everyone has sat down at the same time, then “last one to stand up” rules come into play and the last person claiming “shotgun not” to stand up again is the loser.

This also can be used when swimming, but you must go upside-down underwater.

We like to save the “nose touch” for international drinking rules, where the “nose master” touches their nose and last one to do so must drink the entire contents of their beverage. But that’s a whole different facebook group…

xxx

the not it nose touch is the perfect way to annoy ppl because it's a legit. game so they can just be like "oh whatever i'll just do it anyway (the final sign that you have defeated them)

I don't want to presume, but perhaps we should refine what is being said here. For me and my flat, it has always been thus:

"Shotgun" on its own refers to the front seat of the car; for it to refer to anything else, that item needs to be tacked on the end, e.g. "shotgun last condom". Thus, "shotgun not" would be used whenever someone doesn't want to sit in the front seat (for some strange reason), and, correspondingly, "shotgun not last condom".

So the formula, therefore, would be "shotgun" ( [potential negativer] [item/action]). Thus, the "shotgun" rule retains its integrity, as it is not "(shotgun-not) washing dishes" but "shotgun (not-washing dishes)".

There is NO such thing as no place for shotgun. (as per Dave Jacksons post above – sorry to name and shame Dave)
Shotgun is applicable is all situations where you want or don't want to do something. If you want the shotgun seat, obviously you only need "SHOTGUN" for this.
It is a simple call of shotgun *item* if you want something, if you have no desire to perform a task then "shotgun-not" is applicable. Keep things simple guys and there will never be confusion of the shotgun standard.

we used to say shot gun not doing it but started saying shotgun not a while back lol

Your all slow and rubbish! me and a few mates discovered about a year about that continual shouting of " Shotgun not it" sounds a lot like a (fictional) German word "SCHNIT" and hence forth when ever something needed to be done it was the last one to shout "Schnit" that was assgined the task. However it must be said when we were repeatedly shouting "Schnit" the "last one to sit down" rule was also invoked so we were rolling around on the ground shouting looking like some handicaped german tourists….never good

"Shotgun not!" then slam your hand into your nose, thats how it's done!

i have to say that we love it at my work shotgun not serving is the best!especially when its a customer you dont like coming up to the bar or that needs their machine fixed (i workin in a gaming room)! there is a bit of leeway too with if there is a customer you really dont like you can shot gun not serving them at all and it then allows the other staff member to choose their customer of choice which is obviously not allowed to be the same person! only 1 customer not serving all day is permitted though otherwise you end up not serving anyone! its a lot of fun at work and keep you entertained so im all for the shotgun not………..

A much better sounding term is 'Shot-not' instead of 'shotgun not'.

no its not, thats a terrible term

me and my friends use a fair way to decide who does it the person who identifies the problem says1,2,3 not it then everyone trys to say it not last becasue the person in last has to do whatever it is….and we also use a system of who is closest to the problem say the phone is ringing someone must say who is the closest and they must answer

keep it as shotgun not no abbreviations

Ocassionally, I have been present for "shotty-not" which has a certain ring to it. I personally think that shotgun should only apply to deciding seating in a vehicle, but if nessescary, "shotty-not" should be used.

A rule that should be ammended is the back seat shotgun. I have on occasion heard "bullethole" for the second row and "bloodstain" for the back (sides of course). Im sure that people will object, but it is a simple thought.

in the past week i hav been exposed to "sprognot" which seems to over ride all shotguns, just as shot gun over rode the traditional "bags"

Shotgun should only relate to the passenger seat of a car.
annything else should just be declaired that your not gonna do it, and just wait it out till someone gets pissed off and gives in. . . . they always give in in the end.

Dave Jackson, fairness has no place in shotgun rules. Extensions of this kind have been developed incrementally over time and they are clearly valid. The majority of the broader rules of shotgun in its original form will apply equally to these extensions.

shotgun should be used in every area of life. therefore the use of 'shotgun not' should definitely be embraced by all. a current use i am most enjoying is saying 'shotgun not' to decide who answers the phone in office. 'shotgun not doing it' is just long winded.

on the matter of shotgun not doing it i personally feel it is most definately a car game but when shotgun is not wanted ie when you dont want to sit up front in a taxi, or next to a smelly driver or something the term "notgun" is coined any ideas

I say last one on a knee does it. either that or last to touch their nose, or something else that is a bit less noticable.

we do this, i thought it was part of the shot gun rules anyway

i duno some groups have some extension rules for shot gunnin things as to not shot gun things

seems a gd way to save urself energy for those important things lol ;D

i dont understand what is wrong with shotgun not…?

Is the shotgunner in charge of the music in the car? Can he/she control this without the permission of backseat-passengers? Or the driver?

shotgunner in charge of music, BUT at the discretion of the driver. if they insist on playing crap that the driver dosen't like then they forfit all shotgun privilages for the day.

NO if its your car its your stereo the shotgunner doesnt own your car you do

shotgunner does not have bloody VETO on the music. many a time have sat in car with retard shotgunner putting on scissor sisters or something. heresay that shotgunner is in fact control of disc changing/channel hopping, but with direction and approval of other passengers. i should go to bed.

okay im a shotgun expert, listen up, the shotgunner can change volume up or down but not so low you cant hear it, and when the driver says thats loud enough then stop, its the gunners responsiblity to turn the music down if someone gets a cell phone call or needs to call, or if someone has somethin to say, also any fight between driver and shotgunner over volume like if they go back in forth changin the volume up or down or the song back and forth, then its an automatic demotion to the bitch seat. there are some exceptions like if the driver dosent care what you listen to or how loud the gunner takes over the music untill they fuck up and put on a gay song or the driver wants to regain control

i believe the drivcer is in charge until he/she says otherwise

I totally agree, i bought the damn car and strereo, i control the damn music. If she/he has a problem the can ride in the trunk along wth the other people in the car that have a problem with the music. If they don't like the music they should of drove them selves

amen to that

The person in charge of the music, is always THE CO-PILOT, he after consultation with the PILOT, decides on the cabin music and temperature. He also has to SPOT any SPEED CAMERAS, as well as keep an eye out for any HOTTIES.

The CO-PILOT also will be in charge of making sure the PILOT is well nourished, and serves as an additional drinks holder!

there is NO way the shotgunner is in charge of the music…the driver is charge of everything that goes on in his/ her (very rarely) car. If the driver can't control the music in his own car, he might as well admit he watches Sex in the City.

Amen…The driver controls thee stereo and the temerature in the vehicle until they tell everyone differently…Also the driver has access to the fuses which control the stereo and the temperature…I've done it! Piss me off enough and you woun't have either!

The shotgunner gets control over the music so long as the driver approves of the selection. Failure to comply with this rule results in shame, and loss of shotgun at the next stop.

I think it depends. If the driver and shotgunner are musically likeminded then the choice can be left up to the shotgunner, of course this is always at the driver's discretion.

Yet if the CDs/ipod belong to the shotgunner then it is his/her choice but the driver has a veto.

That is a good point…The shtgunner can control the music that the driver wants to hear…

Ultimately it's the drive who is in charge of the music, temperature, cabin pressure and whatever else they have in their car. However in the interest of safety and ease for the driver, these tasks can be delegated to the Shotgunner at the driver's discretion.
This means the Shotgunner has control of the music etc, but is working on behalf of the driver. As stated in a previous post, if the Shotgunner makes a balls up with their duties, they may loose them, and can even be removed to the bitch seat.
And again reiterating a previous post, it is always the duty of Shotgunner to look out for speed camera’s and hotties. Along with staying awake on long journeys and keeping the drive amused and entertained.

Yes it is all about delegation, ultimate power resides with the driver. if the shotgunner is of a different musical taste, they must keep their hands to themselves. It is, however, the duty of ALL passengers, AND driver, to look out for fitties, thus ensuring 360 degree coverage.

The point of shot gun is to control the things that distract the driver, so shot gun should be able to choose the music, but it shoud be something the driver enjoys, i also think that the back seat should be consulted durring music selection. the driver should always have a final say in what happens in and to their car… always

I agree with Shotgunner is in charge of watchin for cameras, fit birds and coppers. As well as controllin the radio once control has been passed over by the driver. They also are in charge of looking after said driver making sure they are not hungry or without a drink

i think that if the driver and shotgunner are in complete disagreement (fighting) about the music, then a vote is taken throuought all the car. majority rules

HELL NO My car, my rules, or you can get dropped @ the bus stop.

agreed.

everyone is pretty much saying the same thing in a different way
heres how i see it
1. ultimately driver has total control (my car, my rules etc)
2. driver delegates responsibility to those who can be trusted to play good tunes and stop music to answer phones/talk, as well as any other tasks mentioned above
3. driver should consider 'reloading' if the token/notoriously bad ipod dj calls shotgun, for the comfort of other passengers
4. as for everyone looking out for hotties, thats a given.

another that is pretty specific to my group of mates is
5. it is the shotgunners responsibility to undertake any drive-by jousting/foam-sword-smacking of any chavs on bmxs holding up traffic

a more recent one we found on a trip to the beach, not sure if anyone else has experienced this
6. do not let any passenger (drunk or otherwise) that is likely to reach forward and open the windows on the motorway sit behind the driver. (applies to cars with electric windows obviously)
this links in with to aircon/heating/window opening which i think generally should be the control of the driver

Shotgun rider controls the music, but driver has executive veto.

As with all else, the shotgunner does duties the driver would perform if they weren't busy driving, yet the driver (and the driver alone) has veto.

The order of precedence for musical choice is as follows:
1. Owner of vehicle
2. Driver (if separate from owner)
3. Shotgunner
4. Back seat passengers (as decided by popular vote or acts of violence)

It is the shotgunners task to execute the choice unless the driver wishes to do it him/herself (e.g. if the shotgunner is unfamiliar with the CD being used and doesn't know the correct track). Backseat passengers (even if they are the owner, who should be driving or shotgunning anyway) may not interfere due to safety reasons.

Surely the owner of the vehicle, if not driving, has automatic Shotgun anyway (see rule 11)

Unless for any reason they don't want shotgun, or are feeling generous and give it up for an ill/tall/large person. Just trying to cover all the bases.

i'd say the driver has more control than the owner, theyare the one doing te work and if on a night out they are theone who had less fun because they didnt drink, its a fair cop id say giving up the owners rights for his act alone

Simply put, yes shotgunner is in charge of music. However, if the driver disapproves of the shotgunner's choices he has every right to demote the shotgunner and replace him with a more suitable passenger. The driver also has every right to enforce limits or exclusions on playlists or suggest particular music to be played. The only potential exception to this rule is where the driver is male and the shotgunner is his girlfriend. But then what man would cross his girlfriend?! (A word of advice in this situation, the driver should either put up with the incessant pop music or plead and beg – direct exercise of his powers to demote this particular shotgunner may well result in decapitation… or worse. Technically he still holds the same powers in relation to her though.)

Surely a more agreeable solution in Howard's proposed scenario would be to exchange the girlfriend for one with better taste in music?

lookin for some feedback

just started drivin and my mate is making a sleeve to go over the headrest of shotgun with his name on. if the sleeve is left there does that mean he get's automatic shotgun?

and if im takin him and my mrs out for a journey, who get's shotgun? cos of there partner rule should it be my mrs, or should itbe my mate who has his name on the headrest?

(and does anyone else call "COBAIN" for the seat behind shotgun?)

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH COBAIN FOR THE SEAT BEHIND SHOTGUN! I LOVE IT!

I'd say no…. if he doesn't have the determination to call shotgun each and every time he should go to the bitch seat, or walk for the damn cheek of it.

LOOOOL at cobain hAhahahhaha. and dude your the driver. whoever you damn well please sits wherever you damn well please. god damnit!

but think of the effort he has gone to to make this sleeve for the headrest

well?

Couples rule, if your girlfriend is there, she gets shotgun. If she isn't your mate gets shotgun over everyone else (that is assuming he is your best mate) that's how we'd play it anyway.

First, a new rule.
If any passenger of the vehicle HAS a shotgun, it is logical to grant them automatic shotgun seeing as how they have the proper equipment on them. (Only applicable if said passenger has the shotgun with them at the time)

Also, in regards to calling seats that flank the bitch, it is often recognized as calling "rifle" for the aforementioned bitch flankers.

assuming your mate is male he deserves the bitch seat for being a big girl and sewing

aother new rule would be that shotgun no matter what overrules dibs

I think there should be a rule for you parents. I am not 100% sure what the rule shouild be but something along the lines of your parents having automatic shotgun (mother over the father if both are in the car). This could also possibly rule over other rules because I don't think people want their mothers riding bitch seat.

Ah but if there are friends riding along with you, i think whoever tells ur mum that she has to sit in the bitch seat gets automatic shotgun for as long as the car is in use and roadworthy, cos e aint gunna be goin back to ya house nemor!

it's rule #14.

Right. Inspired by an advert for the new Toyota Yaris, is it acceptable for Shotgun to have their foot up on the dashboard during the journey or does the total lack of respect for a mates car automatically demote you to the bitch seat or to face the major indignity of walking? Would it be up to the driver? Lets have some feedback on this please! Many thanks!

No, the person who calls shotgun, as long as the time and place of the call is legit, and the driver doesn't call anything like reload, that person who dived through the window, must move to a different seat.

I say no way. Because the sleeve counts as him calling shotgun for future journeys, as opposed to doing it each time you approach the car. So tough cookies for him and his headrest.

DAMN RIGHT

im the driver, i choose

this should be added in terms of can the driver call shot gun and then nominate his/her fav to sit in the seat…

and for that matter to tell the others where to sit

hahaha come on Christine don't be such a wimp you don't need the rules on your side to kick that annoying asshole out the front seat if its YOUR car. Tell em to haul ass or else tie their shoes and meet you wherever your going :P

lol. thanks. im going through a storm cloud, and you made me smile. thanks. but i digress, when the guy is twice your small petite ass – you generaly dont argue as much as you normally would… (pluss i didnt really know him, we were going to a 21st far away, and we car pooled)

i think your idea of anything slightly disrespectful should automatically reduce u to the worst seat in the car for that person (walking isnt always the best option, sometimes sitting in the worst seat is). The reason i dont say a particular seat is because some ppl hate sitting in one seat more than others. For instance – i hate either side back passenger seat, but love the middle, where as some of my friends think it is the worst. this should be taken into account when demotion happens

If you are carrying a shotgun you automatically get shotgun

Get you mate to make a reversable headrest… with his name on one side and your girls on the other.

Good attempt to" bag" shotgun and should apply untill someone else enters car removes bag and demotes freind to bitch seat before the journey starts.If shotgunner breaks any rules bag should be removed and destroyed and band from any shotgun calls for at least two journeys.
Regards to girlfriend / boyfriend being present – remove bag, demote to bitch seat with a call of "don't be so stupid"

Making roll-ups for the driver is the another archaic shotgun responsibility. (Berman: Shotgun for Women 1976)

Oh Yeah, and the biggest person in a packed car automatically gets shotgun. Only of course if the size difference is such that the fucking great lump couldn't even squeeze his giraffe legs behind the seats without getting one stuck against the gearstick.

what about the "have it" rule, if you have been playing football or something like that, and the driver doesn't want the person who called shotgun in the front, then al the driver has to do, is kick the ball away and shout have it, who ever is in possession of the ball when they get it back to the car gets shotgun.

New rule…

'HOT HITCH HIKER' or 'TOTTY' rule…..

If 'shotgun' has been lawfully called at the beginning of a reasonable journey with multi pickups or stops, and during the course of one of these stops a passenger of a greater 'totty factor' attends the vehicle, the driver in a post reload timing situation may have the right to demote the original 'shotgun' title holder to a lower ranking seat in the vehicle and hand the 'shotgun' to the hotter new passenger.

2) if its your mates mum and he is in the vehicle – see above rule on family, but then the 'MILF factor' comes into play, the son or daughter of the afore mentioned must be informed of the reason for the demotion i.e. your mum is milf dude..

in regards to the tottie rule would i get shot gun in your car then ?

if you are hotter than my mate ian then you would more than likely to get the shotgun seat…however I would not only have to have a look at you but also know who you are…

AWWW THATS WOW MEAN IM SURE IM NOT HOTTER THEN YOUR MATE IAN LOL BUT YOU CAN ADD ME AS A FRIEND IF YOU WANT IL LET YOU

I propose a new shotgun rule. A shotgun rule is void if called by someone who is a foot (or more) shorter than the tallest person of the group. In such a situation, shotgun is given to the taller person by default. Otherwise standard shotgun rules apply.

that is a terrible rule partially cos it is unfair and secondly cos its funny watching tall people sqeeze into the back!

worst rule ever!

I strongly disagree with you tall person haters. This is one of the best rules, and needs to be implemented for the sanity and comfort of tall people everywhere. If you're short and want to sit in the front, it is as simple as getting your legs stretched.

that rule sucks! its the tall persons fault for not getting shotgun so therefore should suffer sitting in the back!

This rule does suck. However you could make it so that if the short person gets shotgun then the tall person gets to sit behind them and the short person has to move the seat forward so the tall person can some what fit in the back seat.

this is what tends to happen with my group, when people don't just let me have the seat(I'm 6'5), but it's rare I'm not driving.

simple if your short and u want to sit in the front u put the seat as far forward as the short person possible can.

Truly crap rule!tall people should suffer!

BASICALLY
i think that its a naff rule.

the short people should ride in the boot!

x

loving this rule! its not our fault we're tall and shouldnt have to suffer back seats, if i am ever in the back i make sure i am on the left side and can make sure the person in passenger seat moves forward lots, if they dont i just annoy them with knees in the back and when they moan u just have to say u sat me here and its ur fault!

exactly. this is a rubbish rule, if a short person shotguns front, then tall people claim back left, and thus seat moving can ensue,or if the shorty refuses to move seat, much punching, kneeing etc can be had. ultimately its at the drivers disgression

This rule should only come in play when the journey is of a certain distance, i.e. not when you go five minutes to tescos. But it should be the rule for long distances such as travelling to a different time zone or going just about anywhere in a fiat panda.

Definitely agree. If you're short, you need less space, ergo I get the front seat. It's your own fault for being short.

Also, short people need to be put in their place. Look at history to see what happens when people pander to short people – Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Pol Pot, they were all short.

I find it MORE comfortable in the back aslong as the person in the front is 5 foot 4 or under, and then equally comfortable with the front seatc occupied by somebody up to 5'6". bascally the tallest person should he miss out on calling shotgun should not sit behind another tall person.

My friend is 6"10 and I actually don't mind giving him automatic shotgun. ITs an awful taboo to break but I think that it is mitigating circumstance enough.

or perhaps its the opposite and its your fault for being tall, I am 5'7" and this rule has been tried on me many times. . . it always fails and always will.

no one enjoys being punched in the back of the head so therefore tall people tend to forfeit the position anyways. if you were slow on the draw its your own fault and thats all it comes down to. Another thing, if a tall person is goin to bitch about sittin behind me then I am goin to be an ass back and refuse to move the seat… if you bitch its your own problem then.

I think that's prejudice. If all people are equal in the rules of shotgun, that doesn't matter if they are male or female, where they are from, or how tall/short/fat/thin/whatever they are. Shotgun rules are there to give everyone a fair chance to the front seat. No discrimination allowed.

Also.. if the short person is in the front and the tall person in the back, both tall and short person can see out the windscreen, thus causing less travel sickness. So there are reasons for and against both points of view.

Equality for all!

P.S I am neither short nor tall, simply a standard 5'5", thus I am not bias to either side.

Typical short man! You assume I'm tall – on the contrary, I'm not much above average…

Also, being the normal designated driver, it's never really a problem for me anyway.

I like that rule, I always seem to get stuck in the back seat JUST BECAUSE IM SHORT and I dont like it

So I'm tall. And I think I'd have to go with the rule that if there is someone who is struggling to be comfortable in the back, then the shotgunner must move their seat forward, as long as it does not grossly infringe on their comfort. Being short or tall otherwise should not affect the shotgun rules

what would be the case in Tall v Fat :S

i totally disagree with this…totally unfair just because i am 5ft y shud i always sit in the bk…esp if its a nice 4 seater sports car!

no fatties in my car please. i'll never get over the speedbumps on my road ;)

tall people should be given automatic shotgun if no one else in the group is of similar height. its not my fault im 5ft 11.5 ins and sitting up front is much better than being squashed in th back.

see if you had that big of a problem with back seat, I would just make you walk. thats basically what it comes down too. if you dont call it in time you can walk or ride back. the choice is yours.

I agree.
I am 6 foot tall, and in most cars (Ys even fireflys) I can still get enough leg room if the said shotgunner moves their seat forward.

Plus what do you do if EVERYONE is that 5'9"-6'1"?

Everyone is equal..no our own handicaps!

My friend David is even taller then you im not sure but he is either six two of six three any way hes a big guy. Most of the time we dont even fight him for it because we dont want to be squished in the back with him. Well that plus we dont want to hear him complain the whole time about how squished he is.

As I've said on another post, the beauty of shotgun is that it allows the contestants' true desire to show through – i.e. the one who cares the most will get their arse in gear and call it first. If you are tall, but don't call shotgun, then obviously the pain of being in the back isn't THAT bad, or you would have remembered to call it. Tall people are already favoured by shotugn for this reason – they have more motive to call it, so should win every time.

I was running from the cinema towards the car in order to get it within my line of sight with my mate, and we both shout "Shotgun!" simultaneously. Now instead of the traditional rock paper scissors the driver calls "Trousers down!". We both take up the challenge, drop trou, and proceed to run/waddle towards the car. This included running over 4 lines of road (with a central reservation) in the middle of a busy town (Aylesbury if anyone cares) with barely a care for our lives.
As we made it into the car park, i hear my phone drop out my trouser pocket, as I turn to look, i seem to keep running and hear this "riiiiiip from down below. I look down and around my ankles are the torn remnants of what once was a pair of black trousers.
However, despite losing the race my friend gave me the front seat anyway because of the dedication that i showed to the cause. The moral I think is that stay true to your goal and you can overcome all.
It was one SWEET ride home.

Anyone else got any good stories, maybe they even have a lesson?

International shotgun:

Me and my bro are in lebanon at the moment and friday we went to a very fancy wedding for my cousin, i was in high heels, and a skirt and such, my bro was in a full suit. The time to leave the wedding came, and as we began our walk over the 'car park' to the car, i yell shotgun, disaster strikes! i ve seen the wrong car it is not ours, a race insues between the two of us previously graceful siblings, to get in sight of our car, and alas at the last minute the heels that previously looked great with the skirt worked against me and i was beaten to the shotgun site by the younger sibling, sob.

If I were you I wouldn't be shouting 'Shotgun' in the middle of Lebanon if I were you…..

ha, yeah guns arent so bad its explosives that are an arse :P

lmao my one friend yelled short gun, so all my other friends ran to back so they didn't get bitch seat. so they all are in, and the drivers door (my door) was closest, so im in and seated before my friend who called shotgun. so i see him about to open door and i lock it(power locking). so he move his hand away from door and i unlocked… again he goes for door and i lock it…… this happens several more times. eventually the back seat friends convice me, bucasue he wasn't able to open door after a shitoad of times to leave without him… and we did. (like 5 mins later we came back for him, but we made him bitch seat)

i lost out on shotgun one time, but i knew we were to stop at a garage. So, i hid my mates fags (who had front seat) ultimatly forceing him to get out and buy some more, so i quickly hoped into the front then relaxed for the 20 mile journy ahead of us! lol

Two of my mates were making their way back to their car after a film on a cold winter night. They both ran to call shotgun (even though there was only two of them in the car, one being the driver). The passenger guy slipped on some ice turning the corner and slammed his knee into a metal post, breaking his knee in two places. sweet.

I generally live by the rule that the driver is exempt from the need to call shotgun, mainly due to the obvious possession of car keys.

Here's a question…I walked out of chipoltle, a simultaneous shotgun was called between my friend and I, at which point the proper footrace began, now I threw a big ole cup full of coke at her which detered her, was that ethical?

Ethical?

No

Genius?

Indeed! Sir, I tip my cap in honour of you.

after having to explain to my house mate what shot gun was, the next journey we encountered as a group she yelled at the top of her lungs
"GUN SHOT" loser

hahahahaha!

A few friends and I were on our way out of a mall in a fairly urban center. A simultaneous Shotgun! was called, and the footrace commenced. I was driving, and as such, was just observing. The one guy was just a biiit faster than the other, so he got to the car first, but the second guy couldn't stop in time. He knocked the first guy, who then dented the car, broke the side window, and the second guy was in a t-shirt, so he cut up his are really bad, and had to get 6 stitches later that day.

Good Times.

lmfao, thats awesome, mines simlilar….

its was winter and just finsihed freezing rain, so everything was covered in ice, and me and my buddie are going to the truck, and we both yelled shot gun, and we started running, i beat him to the truck, and culdnt stop, so i slammed into it and slid away, and then he slipped and fell, and slid under it, and ended up hitting his head off the door…. its was great.

I've had automatic free shotgun rights for 6 months now because i've broken my knee and so HAVE to sit in the front (with the seat right back as well LOL).

Ah the perks of having a maimed leg!

I was driving my mates back home, and after a simultaneous shotgun call the footrace commenced. My friend, so committed to the cause, didn't bother checking first, ended up getting hit by another car. He got the bitch seat. It was incredible.

hahahaha we actually used the pirate rule! (rule #22)

we were going to see Pirates 3 and i was dressed as a pirate and so was the driver.

automatic shotgun is awesome!

and of course, being in the front seat, i had the job of bothering the people in the backseat. THAT was fun!

i'm going on a roadtrip today. i am DETERMINED to get the shotgun seat. haha and make life a living hell for the backseat riders for a full three hours. muhahahaha

One time i ended up in the bitch seat but the driver made me switch because i was too tall, automatic exeption.

my brother introduced me to the shotgun term when he was driving me and some of his mates about and they were gutted that i got in there first. there started a battleso between me and one of his friends. i live by the rules and get genuinely angry if people dont – however, after brothers said friend shouted shotgun while i was pre occupied chatting to the driver i felt i had been cheated so got in the front seat anyway. he of course was angry and proceded to sit in the front seat on my lap… a great trick if your older brother has fit deidcated shotgun players. well worth the leg ache all the journey home….

My mate once (while drunk) called "shotgun", grabbing the door handle of my other mates car, only to realise that it was actually someone else's car (which was identical) thus giving the opportunity for me to succesfully call "shotgun" on the correct car which was parked another two cars down the road! :-)

let me take you back to a time before you knew of the shotgun rule…

i was about 13?

me, my mate and his older brother who could drive, all went to the cinema, and afterwards we walked back to the car. neither of us knew of the shotgun rule, and so we just preceeded with a good old race to the front seat. it was dark and there wasnt many cars in the car park… i ran as hard as my tiny legs would take me and as i saw the car in front of me ;bleep' and flash with the familiar keyless centeral locking feature, i took me chance and jumped into the front seat, turned, locked the door, and as an extra precaution put my seatbelt on to await for the others.

afte waiting for a minute or two i wondered where they had got too and looked to my right

to my horrow, there was my friend and his brother comfortably sitting, roaring with laughter, in the car next door (my friend in the front seat)

to my horror loking to my left i saw a middle aged coupleapproaching the car i was in and trying to open the door

i shamefully undid the belt, unlocked the door and got out apologising prefusely to the couple whose car i had appeared to just been stealing whilst under my breath cursing keyless centeral locking

i then had to wait beside my friends car trying to get in because they locked it untill the couple had driven away after telling me not to get caught next time!

the shame…

we were playing a rugby game in burlington (about 15 km) and one of my mates had broken his leg in the second half. after the game we were walking to coaches van for the ride back. his van is a work van so it only has two seats (driver and shotgun) and then an open back that we pack ourselves into. we're all climbing into the vehicle when the gimp opens his mouth and says "has anybody called the front?" naturally about four people yelled out "shotgun" but i was quickest (and closest to the door) and got the shotgun. the best part was that the race involved about three people simultaneously trying to rugby tackle each other, on pavement. being the kind person i am i gave the gimp shotgun so he wouldn't complain.

Some people from my school was on a school trip to San Fransisco. After a long journey (from Norway) finaly ended up on the San Fransisco Airport. As they were talking about how they were looking forward to a shower at the hotel, one guy shouts "SHOTGUN!" to get the right to shower first. The result was a disaster as people paniced and security came running with guns drawn.

of course, why would the driver call the passenger seat?

love it "dedication to the cause" lol

Oh my gosh hahaha. I knew they were cracking down on the air ports but i didnt know it was getting that serious. Both my parents just left for San Francisco this morning for the weekend. Party at my house woot woot! Any way ya thats crazy i herd your not even allowed to bring toe nail cutters any more or else you have to throw them away.

yes tht shuld be in the rules

no
thats stupid

nope

and assuming that this is/should be the case is a dumpable offence.

BFs/GFs shouldn't but potentials should ;)

Haha
That guys thinkin'

It should! Or they can relegate it to others who call shotgun. Being a driver's significant other is an honour that shouldn't be ignored.

go on www.shotgunrules.com and u will find all the official shotgun rules there and u will find tht significant others or potential significant others of the driver automatically get shotgun!

I bow to the other half shotgun rule. I also believe that mates who travel in the front of other mates cars an excessively large amount of the time should also be included, thus becoming sham boyfriend/girlfriend and reaping the benefits of other half shotgun!

They should NOT get automatic shotgun
They should have to shout shotgun just like the rest of us. I hate it when youre sitting in the back and theure just sitting there making soppy faces at each other!

Yes they definately get to be shotgun..It just goes without saying..Any1 having issues with that should quietly leave the car and walk 2 the destination (or take a cab… or wtv)…This should be the #1 shotgun rule !

No of course not

they fairly obviously should, because at the end of the day, the driver of the vehicle has the final say. it's their car after all.

shotgun goes above, shotgun goes above

I normally use this rule, with the only rule taking precedence over this one being the owner rule (i.e. you're the car's owner but you're not driving it).

in the case of multiple partners, should you implement shotgun rules or does the partner you've been with the longest get the right?

Also what happens if you're driving your partner AND one of your parents? Don't parents usually get the automatic shotgun right?

We need leadership in these difficult and testing times!

I dont think they should…BUT it is the last rule of The Oficial List, so how can we argue

of course they do! couples always get autmatic shotgun, so the driver can boss them around and shout at them if they get the directions wrong :D

no benefit should be given… apply the rosa parks scenario, there i celebrated black history :p, its discrimination- no auto shotgun

what happens if you have several boyfriends or girlfriends? is the playin field levelled? and what happens to any non-romantically involved passengers. Are they forced into "bitch"?

if its the drivers girlfriend/boyfriend then ya they get shotty. sounds stupid thats just how it goes. I dont make the rules here

Yes, i believe that any girlfriend/boyfriend, spouse, lover or hired prostitute for the evening should automatically gain shotgun unless this offer is declined.
xxxx

Again, I wish to contest this. They should not AUTOMATICALLY get shotgun. If the driver/owner/etc is in a piss with them, then he should have the right to NOT award shotgun to the object of his annoyance.

Lovelovelove

Joe
xxx

giving a B/F or G/F automatic shotgun is just stupid, its like having a couple in the back of a car and they cant leave each other alone. im sure one journey is not too long to be seperated by a seat! get over it!

Joe, what the fuck are you on about – your girlfriend gets shotgun in whatever case – you AUTOMATICALLY give it to her whether youre in a piss with her or not Anyway, my girlfriend has shotgun privilege unless she declines it. up 2 her then.
Love love love
xxxxx

should

It's not about the being separated, it's about highlighting the special status of a partner. Girlfriends and boyfriends may come and go, but while they're there they are at the top of the hierarchy and deserve to be treated as such.

don't think it should be automatic – driver is king & gets to oust the gf is she's behaving badly. I think that dads get the seat ahead of gf's too. Driver can also relegate the gf to the back as a reward to a good mate who gets to ride bitch between said gf & another pretty g.

Yes, it's the "Driver's Bird" rule. Even if the "Bird" in question is a female driver's boyfriend.

See Rule 21

I just wanted to clear something up as it seems to be overlooked in the rules Can the shotgunner sleep or have any nap me and my friend have been debating it…maybe it's common sense?

I say NO sleeping in shotgun seat as the shotgunner also has the job of ensuring the driver is awake and the shotgunner also has to be on the lookout for things the driver may need like street signs and other things. If the shotgunner sleeps I say the driver has the right to smack/slap/punch/wet willy…or w/e the driver chooses to the shotgunner for sleeping and they also will be demoted to bitch seat for the ride back or if any stops are made.

lol

I don't know but that's my opinion…the last parts where random stuff I repeated from the rule but I don't think the shotgunner should be allowed to sleep.

No you cannot sleep in shotgun, it is utterly against the point. If we are to understand the history of the term shotgun, we can see that the person with said shotgun has to defend the stagecoach or they are not fulfilling their purpose.
Taking this into the modern day, shotgunner must be in full control of all auxilliary driver functions that are delegated to them. Though sleeping shotgun can be allowed if the driver permits.

sleeping in the shotgun seat is strictly prohibited. those who break this rule are imeaditly woken up by a punch in the arm and/or wet willy then demoted to bitch seat, and for the rest of the ride are subject to any form of abuse deemed nessasary

I am almost always a group driver. I have no issues with my shotgunner sleeping while i'm driving as long as they are awake by the time the last person in the rear is going to sleep, and awake before anyone in the rear wakes up.

I agree with above. Sleeping can only occur once all other passengers in the behind and bitch seats have fallen asleep first. The Shotgunner has responsibilities that must be attended to and if anything they have to entertain the driver to keep him/her awake.

I think the punishment for falling asleep should be something different though. Perhaps backs seat passengers have the right to draw on the shotgunners face OR place his finger in unorthodox places (ie, nose, ear, crotch, etc) until they wake up at which point they are demoted to the bitch seat.

If ya 'SNOOZE' ya lose, and therefore you can get slapped/kicked/punched/wetwilly'd/poked/pinched/scratched/stamped/flicked/beaten/screamed at/shlommed/kneed/jabbed/backhanded or just simply thrown out of the car door whiles the car is in motion. And then given a shotgun ban!

I agree, Shotgunner should not be sleeping. Now im always a passenger, and there is a heirachy of shotgun in the main car i go in ( eg drivers gf or his designatated person/ another driver gets dibs if the driver says so), but when i am given front seat, or claim front seat, i dont sleep except for microsleeps occasionally, so when its 3/4am and we on the way back, im awake to keep the driver awake. Ive been given shotgun part way thru a journey so the shotgunner could sleep because they know i stay awake.

The whole point of the front passenger seat on long drives is to help the driver, keep them awake, pass them stuff, open stuff, check for cops, check blind spots etc. If you sleep, then its got to be like 3am or something otherwise.

In MOST situations, there ought to be no sleeping in shotgun, especially if everyone else in the back seats are asleep. Then its shotgun's responsibility to keep the driver awake. But, say, it was during the day, and everyone was awake, but someone feels really sick, then I think its ok. I had to do that once. It was my car, and I got sick at the beach. My friend drove home, and I slept / stared out the window keeping from puking, and I was in shotgun. That day kinda sucked… and that's one of the only situations in which it ought to be ok.

i agree.
sleeping shall not be permitted in shotgun seat. those in rear seats, if awake, may request a reload, whereupon the one who called reload gets automatic shotgun. driver ultimately has say.

ADD IT TO THE RULES

Toatally agree no 1 in the the shotgun seat should
sleep they should help the driver stay awake and be the
music mana/woman

but what if the driver allows it?…

most of the time i'm the the group driver and i'm ok
only and ONLY if the shutguner fall asleep after the one
seated in the bitch seat and if he/she awakes before
him/her, otherwise he/she losses the shotgun

but again… what if the driver allows it?

anyone caught sleeping in shotgun will be allowed to sleep untill they are in a deep and peacefull sleep. at this point the driver will gun the brakes and all inside the car will scream to simulate a car accident. the shotgun rider will then remain awake for the rest of the trip. note… be sure the doors are locked before this is done as it may scare the victim into jumping out the door on the interstate

HAHA I so agree! BTW that is the best idea for lazy Shotgun riders! :)

Nah no sleeping for the shotgunner
They have to keep the driver comapny

No sleeping in the shotgun seat without express permission of the driver. If you fall asleep in the seat without the driver's permission, you will be wet-willied, drawn on, and demoted to the bitch seat.

How's that?

No sleeping in the shotgun seat, ever, for any reason whatsoever.

This is both on principle (the shotgunner has to keep the driver company) and practical (the shotgunner has to keep the driver awake)

These are both duties of the shotgunner, and sleeping disables the shotgunner from fulfilling his duties, thereby demoting the person to riding in the trunk for the rest of recorded time.

Absolutely – Sleeping in the shotgun sleep is to be frowned upon. However, the Driver may consider a fine of Irn Bru, Wine Gums or Flakes instead at demotion, payable by the Shotgunner at the next Garage

Shotgunner definitely can not sleep. If you want to sleep, you get in the back. Shotgun is not for sleeping in any way.

Prubjit Manku said it best with "if you snooze you lose." No sleeping in shotgun. End of. However if you read the wall discussion on dying whilst calling shotgun it may be possible to ride shotgun whilst dead at times.

I agree, on the principle that the shotgun seat, unless designated by the driver, is a democratically taken position (i.e. s/he who calls quickest) but it is also part of the check and balance system of Group ridding shotgun. Shotgun has to be awake to do ancillary duties of driving (as already mentioned). To sum up: i) with privilege comes responsibility; ii)sleeping is for bitches! and we all know where they sit…

my friend recently bought a new car, and someone has "shotgunned for the life of the car" and this was before he'd even payed for it. is this allowed?
Even if I'm out first, and call shotgun, if she later joins us, I get immediately demoted to the back.
Just curious cause it usually means im in the back, with my extra long legs crammed behind her seat.
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Note rule 6-

"6. Shotgun cannot be called in advance, only whilst on the way to the car for the journey."

I should imagine this overrules any "shotgun for life"?

i cant beleive someone had the nerve to shotgun for life. I think if the driver is enforcing this rule, you should never ride in teh car again as the driver cllearly is a head case and should not be allowed to drive, oeprate heavy equipment of be given any type of weapon, unless dropped deep behind enemy lines.

I wills tate i think rule 6 dies override any flippant claims a shotgun can be called for life…each trip is a new challenge, it has always been this way.

I however will comment, that if they have the gall to make such a claim, they are obviously out of touch with the necessary skills to be the Shotgun rider. And in any case will probably miss a cop car, stop sign, play dicky music, and or actualyl fall asleep in Shotgun. So she can be OUTTED as a result of any of those infrignements.

Or just dress as a pirate everytime you are going in the car…thats definitely going to deny her shotgun, as the Pirate Rule is AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN, which overrides any call of Shotgun, inclduing bullshit eterntiy shotgun calls.

sorry reoplied to LEah, not you…read my thoughts on your matter, i hope you ahve a good sword, a rapier is the most effective.

If you call dibs on the front seat, yet someone calls shotgun on it, which takes precedence?

what the fuck is dibs! sounds like some irrelevent call to me!

dibs is for dweebs

I think Brian might be gay…..?

Not gay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROxVr6rwJc

Dibs exists

what the fuck is dibs, dibs is a word said by cunts TO cunts….you cunt

so many swear words, so little time. this is entirely supported in this group

dibs and bagsies are no longer void when playing shotgun

Shotgun overrules Dibs in the case of calling Shotgun, where Dibs is meaningless.

Shotgun has absolutely no power in any other context. Only dibs, bagsy, yoink, nigs, etc. are of any use for stuff like that.

Dibs is rubbish

Shotgun is the OFFICIAL way of claiming the front passenger seat End of

Read the rules, guys!

14. Shotgun overrules Dibs, Baggsy's and and other girly calls!

15. despite the debate, shotgun can be used to shotgun things other than the front seat (eg back left, back right, women, not going to answer the door etc etc etc)

I still disagree with number 15. Shotgun should be for calling Shotgun, and nothing else. At least it makes sense there, with the history of it and all.

Calling shotgun on a hot girl, while good for a funny mental image of fending off bandits etc, just doesn't make sense.

I don't understand what you mean by shotgun not making sense… atleast there is a real word to signifying your claim on an object. Dibs isn't even a real word, talk about things not making sense, using a made up word to signify somethign, now that just doesn't make sense

Dibs…i think that's an ice-cream…. shotgun definitely rules over dibs, all day every day.

the popularity of shotgun and the size of this groups shows to all you dibbers and bagsiers out there that your calls have been made redundant by the power of the shotgun…it is allpowerful. moreover anyone calling dibbs or bagsy should be automatically be given the bitch seat or made to do what ever it is they are trying to avoid…or just bitch slapped

I'm saying that the word 'shotgun' has a genuine association with sitting up front, from the days of wagon trains and raiding parties and people literally riding shotgun and so on. but I don't think the word shotgun can be used outside that context. riding shotgun in a car makes sense, it has real historic origins. calling shotgun on not making the tea doesn't make sense in any literal way. use of the word shotgun in situations other than seating arrangements in a car has spilled over from its original use in cars… and for some reason that bugs me. I don't know. I just think it should be Shotgun for cars, Dibs or whatever for other stuff.

I totally agree with you, shotgun only in cars.

On another note, I have said 'bagsy' all my life and feel like you are denying my childhood by not allowing me to use the term.

That's just mean, and I am not a cunt before you start

definitely

shotgun overrules anything and everything in an situation
end of!