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we could all vote for Ron Paul. He's the man.

Yes let's all support acandidate that wants to do with the CIA and IRS, two aspects of the government that are essential to the way America functions. Unless of course you want to be attacked by other countries and have no governmental services…

And you are a high schooler in 11th grade, unless you failel grades, you are not voting for Ron Paul. Also he's a Republican, if he honestly thinks he can get a nomination from the Conservative base, he is absolutely senile.

hahaha ron paul is a freakin d-bag…..

…..just an idea……

Bob Dole bitch!

This group is a fucking joke they arnt gona lower gas prices they are rising because we are running out of resources

congratulations your the 40000th dumbass in this group to figure this out.

haha ur right.cept for the dumbass part.hes just pointing out the obvious like eveyoneelse.i do that for fun.u should try it.oh wait thats right it takes s/t u dnt have-wit

Yeah, it may be true that we are running out of resources, but if you watch the news and don't just listen to your friends, you would realize that this is NOT an issue of supply and demand, which would be the reason gas prices are going up if we are running out of resources. If you really want to blame something, blame inflation, and OPEC for cutting oil production. (For those of you that don't know what that is, that is the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries). Oh yeah, watch the news if you're going to make comments like that so you know what the hell you are talking about.

Its obvious you can't spell for shit. There I just did point out the obvious you dolt.

whether we are running out of resources or not, not buying from one company WILL have an impact. you fucking idiot.

i dont ever buy from exxon or mobil stations, because they are ALWAYS 4 or 5 cents higher, and they are always kittycorner to another cheaper gas station.

Maybe you all don't understand supply and demand. Maybe you're just mentally retarded, idk. One of two things will happen if you try this and neither will get what you want and it will only hurt the economy and every American citizen.

First if you stop buying oil from one or two companies then you just buy more from another company, they're prices skyrocket and the two companies you didn't buy from plunge. Eventually everyone else in the country buys from the really cheap companies so the other companies have to lower their prices and now the really cheap prices start to climb up again. Within days everything evens out again. Only now investors see how idiotic people are and stop using the dollar for their investments and move to the euro. That'll help the economy.

The other possibility is that they would just sell their barrels of gas to other companies and by that way nothing would change because the demand stays the same and the supply would be the same.

The only way you could lower gas prices would be to stop using gas altogether or to get on your representative to lower taxes on gas. Even if you did stop using gas altogether the market would falter, we'd hit a recession and inflation would overshadow, by far, any savings you make on lower gas prices.

I'm honestly laughing right now, why? If you're all that hot and bothered about this idea, why don't you start stocking up on oil right now, so you can make up for our withdrawl from the stranglehold of the major oil companies? Or better yet….go bitch to someone who gives a damn?

You have a decent point with your first idea, but the rest is completely flawed. Think of it this way…you're the "cheap" gas station, making a lot more money because your oil supplier is NOT Exxon or Mobile, thus causing you to get more traffic. All of a sudden, the suits at Mobile call you and offer to start giving you their gas. You accept, but oh god, word gets out that you switched to the big oil companies, and boom, everyone who originally came to you because you had cheap gas now abandons you as if you were Chernobyl. Sure, the big wigs may cut you a deal on gas, but all you've done is turned yourself over to the "bad guys".

Ouch. And apparently I'm retarded.

Because this plan will never work and it'll just end up causing a recession, I don't have that kind of money to make up for the damage that this shithole "plan" will do to the whole market. You should give a damn about causing an economic downturn in this country.

Money is king my friend, once the gas prices start going down try to keep people listening to this plan, they won't and you should know that. Also if you take that attitude you're going to have to boycott all of the oil companies because they all trade with each other if they have excess or if they run short (they're all "bad guys").

Yes you are retarded and a little bitch.

The ONLY way to kill oil prices is to change to an alternative energy.
The only problem is that gas companies wont do that because the margin on crude is way to high. And I forgot my other point…>.<

When gas prices go down enough for me to consider them "down" (I have yet to be brainwashed into the school of thought that $2.98/gallon is cheap gas), barring some major catastrophe it won't magically jump up overnight, and will only give more time for alternate fuels to be researched and put to use.

I'd love to continue this argument, but you see, I only argue with those mature enough to carry on a semi-respectful/intellectual conversation. Having the balls to call someone a little bitch behind the safety of your own computer is really a tough thing to do, I give you a lot of credit. Maybe someday you'll get really brave and use a gay joke.

Ignoring the truth doesn't make it any less true. And yes as long as the same demand and the same supply is there the average price will (gasp!) stay the same. Because that is what the market runs on, supply and demand. Maybe you should take a course in economics and then come up with some magic plan to tackle this issue.

And fyi, I'm the only one in here that has a half of a brain or knows what the hell I'm talking about so keep telling yourself that you have the intellectual upper hand, still doesn't make you any much less of a mindless idiot.

You guys all know that the introduction to this group is a Hoax, right? Stop complaining and buy a more fuel efficient car. I get 33 Miles per galllon on my car and I never complain. Most people who complain are the ones who have crap gas mileage. What's even worse is that they are proud of their big machines and refuse to buy something smaller.

what about those who's jobs require a larger vehicle (Geologist, engineers, ect) . while I strongly agree with you that most people need to ditch the SUV and buy a smaller car, not all of those complaining have that option.

well obviously we can omit those who really need these vehicles because they're the ones who really use them for what they really are. Some folks need them for their heavy duty purposes. However, using them for stupid reasons like hauling the driver's fat ass is not acceptable

You also realize that not everyone has the option of switching from their old car or truck to a newer, fuel-efficient car. Money doesn't grow on trees, and likewise, not everyone can afford a new car.

I never said anything about purchasing a new car.

it will pay for itself in fuel savings.

in 1980 Reagan announced he was going to drill domestically for oil. the price for a barrel of oil immediately dropped below $10.

in 2002 Bush announced he was going to drill domestically for oil. the price for a barrel of oil immediately dropped below $30.

today the price for an oil barrel is over a $100.

Reagan and Bush didn't even have to drill for oil, all they did was just announce. This is because opec nations know what most Americans don't. In the mainland of America we hav oil reserves the size of kuwait (yes thats a country) If we dont want to hurt the enviroment dont drill in protected habbitats. We have so much land rich with oil we drill other places.

Alaska is full of oil and it is approximately 3 times the size of texas. we actually wont hurt habbitats or the environment there because we will be drilling well below the surface and the pipelines will be below the surface. many organisms will gather around the pipelines for warmth and it will help many organisms survive.

Canada started drilling and their currency sky rocketed.

Energy independence can be done by drilling our own oil. No longer do we have to listen to extremists like jugo chaves or radical leaders of the middle east.

Oil may or may not be the future, but it is the present and near future. with hybrid technology and other sources for energy being invented now is the time for the US to sell our oil. We have such an abundance to keep our nation satisfyed, while still exporting.

Now is the time to drill, our economy could use the boost. Everyone in our nation will benefit from gas prices well below what we are paying right now. probably less than a dollar or atleast half of what we are paying right now.

when there is more supply it creates more competition. more competition creates lower prices.

its really Bill Clintons fault we are having gas prices this high. no other president ever allowed dependance on foreign nations for energy to rise like he did.

drilling is not in the democrats agenda. don't be fooled by their energy independence propaganda. write to your congress man/woman because McCain doesn't seem interested in drilling either.

This is our nation, our future, our economy. Save it by drilling for oil.

gas is pretty high… professionals expect the gas will drop down to 90 cent/litre because they found oil companies in a role of boosting the price.

what expert?

Yeah, there are huge oil fields in the Gulf, but no companies know how to safely and efficiently tap them (yet). Chevron CEO was talking about how they're trying to develop the technology, so we'll see how that works out.

I literally can't believe that you guys are kicking up a fuss about this.
Do you know what the price for gas is in Europe? …£1.07 per litre for unleaded
That's about $2 per litre or $8 to the gallon(!) and this isn't a current trend – its been that way for the last 2 years.
you guys should stop fighting to lower your prices and just accept the reality that gas prices must go up

If u think boycotting exxon and mobil will actually do nething to the price of gas ur a moron. If people buy from other companies, what happens to those businesses? I'll tell u, they become the next exxon or mobil and join the ranks of the juggernauts. Wow genius idea, im sure that gas will down to 1.30 in no time. LMFAO

THEN mr thinks hes soo smart we can buy from exxon or mobil cuz they would have to compete with the gas companies we buy from by lowering prices

u make no sense at all, u must be as smart as a 2 year old. Do u really think that other oil companies are selling gasoline any cheaper than exxon or mobil? They ALLLLLLLLL sell at similar prices, if there were actually other companies selling gas for cheaper, why is gas still 3.20? Good Call!

RETARD ALERT! RETARD WATCH OUT FOR THE RETARD U GUYS
he explains everything perfectly in the description

im done arguing with a complete moron. ive made my point and u actually helped make it, with ur idiotic replies. Thank you very much, u will get no more of my time. Have fun believing that this and u actually matter to oil companies.

Right on!

Stop paying the Pelosi Premium!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5UYNX_XGQA

oil prices aren't getting higher because of people's greed so much as because increasing demand at the same time as stagnant supply worldwide.

As a commodity, oil is subject to being traded through free and open markets and therefore the more people want it (demand) the more it will cost.

From the 1800s until the 1990s or so it was just us, the Europeans, and the Japanese who were using it in large quantities. Since the 1990s, new and upcoming economies like China, India, and Brazil have begun using much more oil to power their growth.

Basically, there is a limited amount of the dinosaurs that keeled over and died 65 million years ago whose bones became oil over the millions of years since, and there is a quickly-growing amount people who want to use it. All the easy-and-cheap-to-find oil has been used, and the rest of it is hard and expensive to find and extract.

Because of this, though prices might spike up or down in the short-term, over the long-term prices are going and will continue to go up.

Sucks, huh?

If you want more info this is a good and short briefing about oil prices: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/05/13/Oilbriefing/index.html

So don't buy some college-know-it-all hippies' BS about how punishing the "evil corporations" will lead to lower gasoline prices. The only real way to lower gas prices is to use less oil, and the only way to use less oil is to find another way to power our cars, trucks, planes, etc.

Long story short, we need dependable alternative energy sources and we need them ASAP. Be the one to invent something and you'll be a very, very rich man. And if you're a member of that facebook group, do me a favor and tell the guys running it to do some research and figure out for themselves that they have their heads buried up their asses on this one for me.

Wow, someone else talking about supply and demand. I agree that much with you. I dont agree on the very limited oil thats left.

I have lived for a time in Montana, the amount of oil in North Dakota alone is more than the entire middle east. Plus the new fields they are finding in Montana, and Wyoming. Then Alaska, the Gulf Cost, the Great Lakes. The amount of oil in the ground in the United States is insane.

I support looking for other fuels. But, in the mean time, drill drill drill! build a refinery for the first time in 35 years! Burn coal in the power plants instead of oil. Go Nuclear!

The US has the oil, we are in fact selling oil to Japan because we are at refining capacity. We are selling perfectly good coal to Japan and other countries because we cant use it because of environmentalist.

We can be entirely energy independent with Oil and searching for better fuels and other sources.

Atleast you got the supply and demand part in your post. Thats a start. Even the Left Libs acknowledged it by saying we need to not add more to the Strategic Reserve! thats a step, but soooooo small. we use 22 million barrels a day, we only have been adding 70,000 a day to the reserves. literally, a drop in the barrel.

Yes someone who agrees. But the only problem with your idea of drilling for more oil is that environmentalists, like you said, would have a fit if we started to use coal and oil in America. But the whole idea about not buying form major companies will not work its supply and demand that is the main problem.

my friends tell me to run for congress.

i work in the environment and build wildlife habitat, create better water. yet, i have no problems with oil or other fossil fuels. because i know the global warming religion is not the truth.

i totally agree maybe you should. I'm a 15 year old from florida and my cousin is majoring in some sort of government issue having to deal with the environment and he got me into this stuff.

I am only 27, but what I would try and stress to people younger than me, don't believe everything people tell you. When you get to college, don't believe everything the professors tell you. Lots of people have their own agenda. Do your research. Read and understand the founding documents of this country. Understand what got us to today and how we can improve. Not how we can just get rid of everything this country has ever stood for, but how was can support and reflect what this country was built on.

Stay smart, stay involved and educate others

I think you are off to a good start at least with supply and demand, most people never get that.

ok so gas prices are going up and there seems to be nothing to do about it, but ill tell you one thing boycotting one brand of gas is futile. the reason that gas is so high is becouse of the demand not becouse the gas inisresys are greedy. now i strongly belive that if you going to complan about something then you better have an idea about how to do it better and i have one. its simple really yet becouse of our great legal system its going to take a long to achive. lets use alteritive fuels. ok you may think but i not have a special engain or any thing but you dont need one go to gas stations like bp and others that say that 15% of the gas is ethinal that is supurting alteritive fuals which if we ever fully use will be cheaper then gasoline.

you have no idea what your talking about and try to spell better next time ethanol is hurting the US economy. Sure it may help gas prices but at what cost? Everything else we consume is affected by ethanol because many of the things we consume are made from the corn it takes to make ethanol. Plus the way it is right now it takes 1.5 gallons of oil to make 1 gallon of ethanol. Until we perfect the process of making ethanol out of switchgrass it is pretty much useless and actually costs us more money than it saves.

also, ethanol is only made in few plants in the country, if we all start using it, then it will go even higher than gasoline, also LEARN TO SPELL

The use of biofuels has caused the price of grains to skyrocket. This is hurting the poorest of the poor the most. 'While some people worry about how they are going to fill their tanks, others worry about how they are going to fill their stomachs'

gud job guys …….. but nothin u guys think of wuld work anyway because der is no more supply! we used up all of it and now we have to pay da consequences

yo gud point bro

What can I say?
Better nothing cause then they will finde me LOL ;)
They don't like true.

I agree somewhat..
The goverment HAS to be able to do SOMETHING..
They did it with TV signals (all having to be digital by 2009) so how come they cannot do it with gas..?
We're in an oil crisis right now, not a freakin TV crisis!
Gah, this kinda stuff ticks me off.
For real..

the government has a "rule" per say that says how high and low the gas can be priced..
so hitting the roughest companies will probably not due much or anything.. because they cannot lower it that much..
also i agree… it is the gov't fault..

it's not that the gas cost more it's b/c the dollar is only worth four cents now check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6NfXk7Bvc8 it will explain some but in order to fully grasp the reality of the situation the US is there are a few documentaries u should see one even that has a large amount of evidence that George Bush Sr. was linked to the JFK assassination with a few others such as Nixon

it IS the government's fault! maybe not completely, but like, at least 95% their fault.
and yes the CIA will find us all, but its too late for me anyway because of all the stuff I've posted on facebook :)

Gas is not going to run out. We have so much of it. The media is just telling us this to put fear into our brains so that the oil companies can raise the price of gas and pass legislation to help support oil companies. The only effective action we can take is protest, like the monks and everybody in the 70's. currently in Mexico, the price of gas is 2 dollars and the government controls that price. not buying gas for a certain day is effective, but another way to save gas is buying an electric car, building an electric car, and riding a bike. in 1976 (or 96..) we had electric cars everywhere that were highly effective, silent, and not even equivalent to 60 cents a gallon, electricity is cheap. sure it releases polution from coal factories, but a lot less, and eventually we can protest for solar programs from the government like Germany did. General Motors and Oil companies eventually killed the electric car. May i advise you to watch "who killed the electric car?" movie and Zeitgeist movie (zeitgeistmovie.com). We need to get protesting because the one thing the media, gov't and education systems wont stress is that the power is really in the people. WE ARE STRONG, NOW START PROTESTING!

Cause if so then I'ma have to skimp on this one cause I get all my gas from Wal-Mart since I can use a card & get 3 cents off every gallon. If they are paired with those companies then I'm not doin this cause I rely on my gas card since Wal-Mart is usually cheaper than the rest of the places. Someone please help me on this.

Exxon and Mobil are the same thing. Wal-Mart get its gas from a variety of places, but Exxon-Mobil is not one of them (just google it). But don't you think that if you believed in this group (a misguided belief, if you know a little about economics), you would abstain from buying even Wal-Mart gas if it were Exxon-Mobil? The idea of this group is to make gas prices go down beyond the three cents you're saving. Just a thought.

Anyway, whether or not you think it will actually help gas prices go down, no one should ever under any circumstances buy from Exxon-Mobil anyway. They are the single worst company on the entire planet, as far as human rights and environmental policy go (and also the company with the most net income). Every gallon bought from them is hurting someone or something.

Sunoco is rated the best gas company by the same standards. Try to buy from them as much as possible, but really anything is better than Exxon-Mobil. The extra half a mile you might have to drive in order to find a gas station that isn't Exxon-Mobil (they are somewhat menacingly ubiquitous) is worth it. This group has the right practices if arguably shaky goals. So let's keep it up.

I know. I didn't think about what I said until after I posted it that if I did care enough it wouldn't matter, but I still needed my answer. I didn't think Wal-Mart was in any contract with Exxon-Mobil, but I needed to be sure. Had it been that way I prolly would've tried to find somewhere else to get gas that was cheapest & wasn't Exxon-Mobil, but it's just difficult for me being 16 yrs. old, workin just a couple cents above minimum wage, & driving a car that isn't fuel-efficient (which was WAY beyond my control). I have to think about what is best for me financially even if I am concerned about the environment (which I am), it's just I have to try & be logical to my own financial needs, as well as, try & help the environment. I like Wal-Mart because it claims all it's gas is at least 10% ethanol, if I'm not mistaken, so I am trying to do better for the environment, it's just difficult when you're 16 yrs. old & workin around obstacles that are beyond your control.

Thank you for your reply; I really appreciated it.

Much love,
Heidi

To be honest, you should avoid the gas that says it has ANY percentage of ethanol. Ethanol gasoline is and was the biggest scam that there ever was in the gasoline market. With the ammount of corn that you would need to grow in order to produce a gallon of E-85 Ethanol, you use up an incredible ammount of land, land that SHOULD be being used to FEED Americans. If any of the Ethanol supporters had read up on what Ethanol production and research was doing to people around the world, they would have stopped supporting all Ethanol-related fuel sources. With all of the corn that is being used to make ethanol, the global price of corn has gone up by such an incredible ammount, that countries around the world cannot afford to purchase our excess corn, simply because ethanol research companies will buy it for more than they can. Ethanol-based gasoline has been indirectly responsible for greater food crises around the world, but especially in third world countries (not that "I" give a dam about them, but the environmentalists sure dam should).

Wouldn't it really not matter now anyways being that EVERYTHING is going up in price because of regular oil & gasoline prices? So either way, E-85 or not, we'd be paying out the bunghole for corn anyways? Idk; just a thought. & also, there's only so much we can do for third world countries. Not saying I don't care about them because, believe me, I do, but one of the main reasons Africa is having such a hard time with famine & AIDS treatment assitance is because their government is using the money to fund their corrupt leaders instead of giving the money to the people which it was intended for. So either give the corn to a country who's gonna throw it away or use it to better the environment. I think all of these subjects are (a) trial & error & (b) have two sides to the story. We can talk about them all day long but they are beyond our control & really don't have one true solution.

There is no excess corn, its all being used. We can't grow enough corn to feed our people at a reasonable price, let alone use it for research on an experimental fuel source, that isin't at all worth the money. If we are talking energy here, a gallon of ethanol has less energy than a gallon of gasoline. The difference in energy is so huge that if you use all ethanol, you would fill up (not exact numbers, just for example) 4 times as often and pay half the price. you would end up spending more money, and there is no way they can extract more energy out of the corn. It was a lost cause from the start.